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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 01 Mar 17 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

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There you go.

Well, there was a penalty involved at least!

 




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View Jamesrichards8's Profile Jamesrichards8 Flag 02 Mar 17 5.47am Send a Private Message to Jamesrichards8 Add Jamesrichards8 as a friend

Originally posted by stuckinbristol


Not trying to be pedantic, but I seem to remember Pulis giving Jim Mac quite a dressing down for an elaborate dive.

you're thinking of nigel pearson...

 


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chateauferret Flag 02 Mar 17 7.36am

Originally posted by Willo

As someone has pointed out, 'Poll' is not part of the refereeing 'High command' and has no influence on them, he is now employed in the media.

If I'm to choose between believing Poll or believing you on the matter of what goes on in the circles of Premiership referees I'm afraid there's no contest whatsoever.

Edited by chateauferret (02 Mar 2017 7.36am)

 


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View Holmesdale Hibs's Profile Holmesdale Hibs Flag Sydenham Hill 02 Mar 17 8.27am Send a Private Message to Holmesdale Hibs Add Holmesdale Hibs as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

I heard that on Talksport and I was fuming ! and I am not prone to fuming.
It was a disgraceful thing for a so called ex top referee to say,I thought they were meant to be impartial.He singled out Wilf for diving,I don't recall any of our players diving against Sunderland, but I did see Wilf in the penalty area getting blatantly pushed off the pitch.
There are plenty of divers at the "big clubs" ,Dele All, Sanchez,Hazard etc,the list is endless,but the pundits excuse them because they are being "clever"

Delle Alli, Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey and the others you mentioned plus many more get away with it because they are darlings of the media. Bale in particular did it repeatedly.

Thing is, we've all seen Wilf dive in the past. 2 that spring to mind are when we pumped Newcastle 5-1 and the other in the Bournemouth game at Selhurst last season. The latter was out of pure frustration as he was being kicked silly all game with little help from the ref although in end he was lucky not to get a second yellow. Not often compared to the amount of times he's been genuinely fouled but mud sticks unfortunately.

Some referees need him to be virtually assaulted before giving a free kick but he also needs to learn to shut his mouth and accept he's not going to get every decision. Ronaldo and Giggs are good examples of this - they've been kicked their whole career but have learnt to deal with it and rarely get booked for decent (easier playing for a bigger club I know).

I thought he should have had a penalty in the first half vs Middlesbrough, there was an incident in the second I'd need to see again. McArthur should have had a penalty. End of.

 

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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 02 Mar 17 8.41am Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

Wasn't it Wilf going over in the box (not saying a dive by the way) that relegated Peterborough from the Championship? Or have I dreamt up some fantastical scenario that didn't happen?

Not sure this is right.

Edited by CambridgeEagle (02 Mar 2017 8.43am)

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 02 Mar 17 9.27am Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Not sure this is right.

Edited by CambridgeEagle (02 Mar 2017 8.43am)

It isn't read the thread.

 


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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 02 Mar 17 10.41am Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Hold on a moment before slagging off Graham Poll. He reffed our play-off with West Ham at Cardiff in 2004. There were two massive shouts for pens by West Ham which he turned down. A commentator said that one of them as a "stonewall" penalty but replays showed that Poll was right, the commentator wrong.
PS never clear why "stonewall" is used in this context:
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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 02 Mar 17 10.50am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

It isn't read the thread.

Exactly, I've already been corrected and admitted my faults, don't rub it in CambridgeEagle, it's like my school PE teacher all over again!

 




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View Borussia's Profile Borussia Flag Crystal Palace 02 Mar 17 10.58am Send a Private Message to Borussia Add Borussia as a friend

Also interesting is that the Merriam-Webster definition you attached states 'chiefly British', although the Confederate general in the US civil war was known as Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson.
No idea why people use the term to mean 'definite' - 'nailed on' would be more appropriate. It's like those who mix up 'dog's breakfast' (a complete mess) with 'dog's dinner' (tartified, overblown).

Hope all is well with you & yours, Peterg

 

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View GlaziertoEagle's Profile GlaziertoEagle Flag Coventry 02 Mar 17 11.48am Send a Private Message to GlaziertoEagle Add GlaziertoEagle as a friend

In my opinion Referees are doing a job which is WAY over their competency. In fairness to them, the system is sh*t and they get little back up after matches are over.

For that reason I am convinced that most make decisions based mostly on guess work, allowing biases to play too much of a role.

For instance I think Zaha, because the public and media have seen him getting worked up and petulant, it is now commonly acceptable to think he could dive during a match. Therefore if the referee is in doubt they will consider their (inaccurate) track record for the player and award a foul against him. That is genuinely what I believe is happening.

Not a specific vendetta against him but rather a case of blatant typecasting based on public opinion.

I have so much more to vent about this situation with referees but I won't go into it now.

 

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View Goal Machine's Profile Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 02 Mar 17 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

It's quite clear and has been for a while that refs have an agenda against Wilf, it's the same as what happened to AJ.

He gets fouled in the box most games and it's highly frustrating that we don't get more pens.

If you get clipped when you're running with the ball it's a foul, however the reality is that if you don't go down the ref won't see it and it won't be given. I think Wilf does go down easily but I don't believe I've ever seen him dive.

Perhaps Allardyce should get replays of all the pens Wilf has not won and send them to the FA to review. The current agenda against him could be the difference between relegation/survival

 

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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 02 Mar 17 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Zaha doesn't go down any easier than any other player in football. They all dive all over the pitch to get out of trouble or win dangerous free kicks, yet some get singled out, Zaha and Sterling spring to mind.
Poll like all refs, current and former always claim refs don't take reputation into account, in fact Poll is always adamant. I didn't hear this, but if he said that then he is actually admitting that refs cheat. Quite a u-turn.
Wilf stays up under very heavy pressure time and again, yet still those useless pricks give him nothing. Time for his teammates to start defending him and us to follow other teams examples and surround the incompetent pricks at every opportunity.


 


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