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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Mar 17 5.20pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by OknotOK

Mings been given 5 game ban which seems disproportionate to the Zlatan one.

I think this is totally and utterly ridiculous.It is far from convincing that it was intentional whereas the later incident concerning the elbow certainly appeared to be convincing.Far more clear-cut yet the latter incident results in a 3 match ban and the former 5 matches ! Preposterous.

 

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View milbo's Profile milbo Flag Lands End, Cornwall 08 Mar 17 5.27pm Send a Private Message to milbo Add milbo as a friend

Very harsh on Mings & Bournemouth. Won't do them any favours in getting drawn into the relegation fight. Should be no more than Ibra's 3 games ban. At least there can be no doubt his was deliberate!

 

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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 08 Mar 17 5.29pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I think this is totally and utterly ridiculous.It is far from convincing that it was intentional whereas the later incident concerning the elbow certainly appeared to be convincing.Far more clear-cut yet the latter incident results in a 3 match ban and the former 5 matches ! Preposterous.

"Mark" the day in your calendars. Willo has just criticised a panel of former "elite" referees.

I happen to think, having professional insight into the impact of brain injuries, Mings' actions were reckless, dangerous and could easily have resulted in serious life changing injuries to a fellow player. His movements could and should have been reasonably foreseen by him to have resulted in heavy contact with Zlatan's head and understood by him that such contact could cause serious injury. Much more serious than breaking a leg. 5 matches is about right. Players need to understand that what Mings did was seriously dangerous and he should have taken evasive action, whatever the state of play or the game.

 

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View milbo's Profile milbo Flag Lands End, Cornwall 08 Mar 17 5.35pm Send a Private Message to milbo Add milbo as a friend

And wasn't Ibra's deliberate elbow to the head equally dangerous and could have caused a serious head injury???

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

"Mark" the day in your calendars. Willo has just criticised a panel of former "elite" referees.

I happen to think, having professional insight into the impact of brain injuries, Mings' actions were reckless, dangerous and could easily have resulted in serious life changing injuries to a fellow player. His movements could and should have been reasonably foreseen by him to have resulted in heavy contact with Zlatan's head and understood by him that such contact could cause serious injury. Much more serious than breaking a leg. 5 matches is about right. Players need to understand that what Mings did was seriously dangerous and he should have taken evasive action, whatever the state of play or the game.

 

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View npn's Profile npn Flag Crowborough 08 Mar 17 5.36pm Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I think this is totally and utterly ridiculous.It is far from convincing that it was intentional whereas the later incident concerning the elbow certainly appeared to be convincing.Far more clear-cut yet the latter incident results in a 3 match ban and the former 5 matches ! Preposterous.

But you DO know which teams the respective players play for, don't you?

Feel sorry for Bournemouth (but if we stay up at their expense, tough)

 

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chateauferret Flag 08 Mar 17 5.36pm

Originally posted by milbo

Very harsh on Mings & Bournemouth. Won't do them any favours in getting drawn into the relegation fight. Should be no more than Ibra's 3 games ban. At least there can be no doubt his was deliberate!

What did anyone expect? Man U three match ban for clearly deliberate act of violence, fair enough. Bournemouth, nearly twice that for something that nobody could prove wasn't an accident. It was dangerous play, yes, but a deliberate assault? Dudn't look like one to me.

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View Salford eagle's Profile Salford eagle Flag 08 Mar 17 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Salford eagle Add Salford eagle as a friend

It was clear that Mings meant to step on his head! In the lead up to the jump Zlatan is in his line of vision. In the real world if you accidentally stepped on someone's head you'd go back and check if the person was ok!

Step back from the United hatred, studding someone's head is a 5 match ban at a minimum.

I have no problem with Zlatan getting retribution, one cowardly act deserves another one in my opinion.

Bournemouth seem to have a reputation as this lovely little coastal club, they are a dirty team, hate playing against them and hope they go down.

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 08 Mar 17 5.44pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by milbo

Very harsh o,n Mings & Bournemouth. Won't do them any favours in getting drawn into the relegation fight. Should be no more than Ibra's 3 games ban. At least there can be no doubt his was deliberate!

But however harsh on Mings and Bournemouth, this injustice must surely bring them into the relegation scrap and he our fight to stay up.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 08 Mar 17 5.44pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

From what we saw on TV Mings eyes were following the ball it was not intentional.

Can only think the FA know different but in any case 5 weeks is far too harsh.

 

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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 08 Mar 17 5.56pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by milbo

And wasn't Ibra's deliberate elbow to the head equally dangerous and could have caused a serious head injury???

No. Full weight of a 6'5" athlete via studded boot into the side of someone's head much more likely to inflict serious head injury, intentional or otherwise. I think the panel, quite rightly, felt that Mings' actions were unreasonably dangerous and reckless even if not intentional and these kinds of actions can't be tolerated.

 

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View Direwolf's Profile Direwolf Flag Lincoln 08 Mar 17 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

Having watched the video a number of times I'm not convinced that Ming's actions were deliberate. Yes he looked but I think that was because he knew Zlatan was in his way. When he jumps he is looking at the ball and not at Zlatan's head. Either one believes that his spatial awareness is so good that he can jump on someone's head without looking or more likely that he miscalculated his jump and in addition was pushed off balance by Rooney getting up to winge about the tackle. Ipso facto Rooney should get banned for creating the situation.

 

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View Direwolf's Profile Direwolf Flag Lincoln 08 Mar 17 6.09pm Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

No. Full weight of a 6'5" athlete via studded boot into the side of someone's head much more likely to inflict serious head injury, intentional or otherwise. I think the panel, quite rightly, felt that Mings' actions were unreasonably dangerous and reckless even if not intentional and these kinds of actions can't be tolerated.

But surely that would mean that no player can ever hurdle another on the ground in case an unintentionally dangerous or reckless situation was created?

 

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