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hedgehog50 Croydon 10 Mar 17 4.13pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Thing is, you're talking about a 80 year period, when the worst of the horror was committed under the regimes of Lenin and Stalin. Like the old soviet union post Stalin, you were safe as long as you didn't speak out or criticise the regime or protest. By the 80s and 90s, whilst still a corrupt and criminal regime, the situation had vastly changed. If I had to I'd say the crimes of the communist eras out weigh the Russian Federation. The Putin regime uses murder to silence critics, show trials to imprison protesters, violence and intimidation to keep the people in check. Then there are the reactions to uprisings in Chechneya and Georgia, which are on a par with the Hungary and Czechs spring atrocity. Its just a question of scale. Would I rather live in the old communist or under putin, I wouldn't want to live under either. Again, simply not true, not just a question of scale. Why do you keep on about scale as if it is not important. By your thinking, you are saying that the Hiroshima bomb was on a a par with the bomb that blew the roof off my grandmother's house during the war. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 10 Mar 17 4.13pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Thing is, you're talking about a 80 year period, when the worst of the horror was committed under the regimes of Lenin and Stalin.

Like the old soviet union post Stalin, you were safe as long as you didn't speak out or criticise the regime or protest. By the 80s and 90s, whilst still a corrupt and criminal regime, the situation had vastly changed. If I had to I'd say the crimes of the communist eras out weigh the Russian Federation.

The Putin regime uses murder to silence critics, show trials to imprison protesters, violence and intimidation to keep the people in check. Then there are the reactions to uprisings in Chechneya and Georgia, which are on a par with the Hungary and Czechs spring atrocity.

Its just a question of scale.

Would I rather live in the old communist or under putin, I wouldn't want to live under either.

Again, simply not true, not just a question of scale. Why do you keep on about scale as if it is not important. By your thinking, you are saying that the Hiroshima bomb was on a a par with the bomb that blew the roof off my grandmother's house during the war.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Mar 17 4.17pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Thing is, you're talking about a 80 year period, when the worst of the horror was committed under the regimes of Lenin and Stalin. Like the old soviet union post Stalin, you were safe as long as you didn't speak out or criticise the regime or protest. By the 80s and 90s, whilst still a corrupt and criminal regime, the situation had vastly changed. If I had to I'd say the crimes of the communist eras out weigh the Russian Federation. The Putin regime uses murder to silence critics, show trials to imprison protesters, violence and intimidation to keep the people in check. Then there are the reactions to uprisings in Chechneya and Georgia, which are on a par with the Hungary and Czechs spring atrocity. Its just a question of scale. Would I rather live in the old communist or under putin, I wouldn't want to live under either. It's getting serious in Russia. We need Rocky to fight Dolph Lungren again. That'll learn em. But seriously... We aren't in much of a position to lecture Russia on immoral use of power are we. At least our sins are usually directed against foreigners which means we can we still wear the white hats at home.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Thing is, you're talking about a 80 year period, when the worst of the horror was committed under the regimes of Lenin and Stalin.

The Putin regime uses murder to silence critics, show trials to imprison protesters, violence and intimidation to keep the people in check. Then there are the reactions to uprisings in Chechneya and Georgia, which are on a par with the Hungary and Czechs spring atrocity.

Its just a question of scale.

Would I rather live in the old communist or under putin, I wouldn't want to live under either.

It's getting serious in Russia. We need Rocky to fight Dolph Lungren again. That'll learn em.

But seriously... We aren't in much of a position to lecture Russia on immoral use of power are we.
At least our sins are usually directed against foreigners which means we can we still wear the white hats at home.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Mar 17 4.18pm
Way to over emphasise. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 10 Mar 17 4.18pm

Way to over emphasise.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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