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jamiemartin721  Reading 09 Mar 17 2.17pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Of course common sense exists. Whereas philosophy is often deficient in common sense, and is in many cases pure gibberish and nonsense - it can make religion appear in contrast, reasonable and logical. Where does common sense exist? How is philosophy deficient in common sense, given its reliance on experience? Any what do you mean by philosophy is deficient in common sense. Are you referring to a specific philosophical movement, or the notion of utilising logical interrogation of existence?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 09 Mar 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I prefer ethics to morality, which tends to be based on the idea of a truth - That said there are clearly minimal laws of behaviour that are required for society to operate. Truthfully I have never fully understood the difference. Ethics are often a predetermined code that can be official where as morality is a more free flowing thing but beyond that, one involves the other does it not?
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 09 Mar 17 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by 20 Spaces Isnt Enoug
Can't believe it's taken this long. Must be a record for 'Hol' " Would " [ her ] She is proper ugly. First thing i thought was christ the baby is going to be ugly. Their laws out their are so ridiculas and its more to do with upsetting them than breaking the law. There are lots of Clubs and Bars where you can meet women and take them home. You can even get prostitutes in some places and i have wintenessed women doing all sorts of things out there. If you behave yourself and dont upset the taxi drivers you can do what you want.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Mar 17 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Where does common sense exist? How is philosophy deficient in common sense, given its reliance on experience? Any what do you mean by philosophy is deficient in common sense. Are you referring to a specific philosophical movement, or the notion of utilising logical interrogation of existence? What do you mean by where does it exist. It is a mode of thinking, making sound and prudent judgements based on situations or facts. An example of philosophy lacking in common sense is Berkeley's notion that material things do not exist, it is all in our minds. Try jumping in front of a non-material train to test that one out.
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| Part Time James 09 Mar 17 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What do you mean by where does it exist. It is a mode of thinking, making sound and prudent judgements based on situations or facts. An example of philosophy lacking in common sense is Berkeley's notion that material things do not exist, it is all in our minds. Try jumping in front of a non-material train to test that one out. Quick caveat here for those of you that are more impressionable. Please do not jump in front of a train. I have to get trains and they are bad enough as it is.
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| matt_himself Matataland 09 Mar 17 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Do you believe that Islamic defined law is reasonable? This is all a bit unusual Answering a question with another question. Top debating. The fact is that you should respect local laws when abroad, just as we expect people to respect our laws when they visit the UK.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Mar 17 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What do you mean by where does it exist. It is a mode of thinking, making sound and prudent judgements based on situations or facts. So it exists as a process of thought. How do you adjudicate that the judgements made are sound and prudent, or that your interpretation of situations and facts is reliable? Originally posted by hedgehog50
An example of philosophy lacking in common sense is Berkeley's notion that material things do not exist, it is all in our minds. Try jumping in front of a non-material train to test that one out. No one holds that Berkley's subjective idealism is totally real, however much of his work in terms of perception and qualities (primary and secondary) are quite influential on modern thought. Of course objects exist outside the mind. Of course for you to project the idea of common sense as real, and then ridicule Berkley is a contradiction, because he would have presented that common sense exists as 'real thing' (or at least as real as an object).
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Mar 17 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Answering a question with another question. Top debating. The fact is that you should respect local laws when abroad, just as we expect people to respect our laws when they visit the UK. What I meant is that its a bit of a reversal of the usual situations. I quite agree and you are right, we should respect the laws of other countries when we're there, even if its wrong, if only to avoid incarceration and trouble.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Mar 17 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Truthfully I have never fully understood the difference. Ethics are often a predetermined code that can be official where as morality is a more free flowing thing but beyond that, one involves the other does it not? Reference.com defines Morality is understanding the distinction between right and wrong and living according to that understanding, and ethics is the philosophy of how that morality guides individual and group behavior. The two are closely related, with morality being the foundation of ethics. Morals tend towards absolutes, what you must do, as opposed to ethics which is what you strive to do. To borrow from NCIS! A moral man won't beat his wife, and an ethical man knows why its wrong to beat women. Edited by jamiemartin721 (09 Mar 2017 3.59pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Mar 17 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Reference.com defines Morality is understanding the distinction between right and wrong and living according to that understanding, and ethics is the philosophy of how that morality guides individual and group behavior. The two are closely related, with morality being the foundation of ethics. Morals tend towards absolutes, what you must do, as opposed to ethics which is what you strive to do. To borrow from NCIS! A moral man won't beat his wife, and an ethical man knows why its wrong to beat women. Edited by jamiemartin721 (09 Mar 2017 3.59pm)
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| thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 09 Mar 17 4.11pm |
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bit of a typical daily mail type story which they have pinched from other newspapers, what relevance does it have to us? a south african & ukranian arrested in abu dhabi?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Mar 17 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is starting to sound a little like snobbery. It rater suggests that ethics require a greater understanding than pure morality.
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