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hedgehog50  Croydon 22 Mar 17 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Not really, Actus Reus is a central concept in western law. It's a bit like applying common sense in law, you'd like it. Actus Reus and Mens Rae are both required for a criminal offence, otherwise there is no offence. Surely you mean 'mens rea', or are you just making it up. But back to the point, calling someone the 'n word' while shagging them is racist.
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| Pista Bristol 22 Mar 17 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
If a person wants to refer to someone else as "scum" and have their reasons for it, then that's their opinion which they are perfectly entitled to. does that same rule apply to the word c***?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Mar 17 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Surely you mean 'mens rea', or are you just making it up. But back to the point, calling someone the 'n word' while shagging them is racist. Ops, yes, Mens Rae, actus reus would refer to the action, not the mind of the defendant. From Reds under the Bed, to reds in the bed. You do have a curious fixation. Yes, it could be racist, or it could be a fetish. I went out with a feminist who liked to be treated rough, and play out rape fantasy. Doesn't mean I'm a rapist. But I'd say, if someone says something potentially racist in private, and no one is offended, then no crime has been committed. Plenty of people like being insulted or degraded, or the use of offensive language during sex. Private lives are different to our public lives.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Mar 17 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
It's against the law to refer to someone as "scum"? Really? Not really, unless your trying to provoke them into committing a criminal act. Technically, insulting someone can be construed as verbal assault or disturbing the peace etc.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Mar 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Ops, yes, Mens Rae, actus reus would refer to the action, not the mind of the defendant. From Reds under the Bed, to reds in the bed. You do have a curious fixation. Yes, it could be racist, or it could be a fetish. I went out with a feminist who liked to be treated rough, and play out rape fantasy. Doesn't mean I'm a rapist. But I'd say, if someone says something potentially racist in private, and no one is offended, then no crime has been committed. Plenty of people like being insulted or degraded, or the use of offensive language during sex. Private lives are different to our public lives. In that case, any alleged 'racist' comment made in any circumstance could be a fetish. As for the 'in private' point, what if it is said during a group-sex orgy, so not public!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Mar 17 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
In that case, any alleged 'racist' comment made in any circumstance could be a fetish. As for the 'in private' point, what if it is said during a group-sex orgy, so not public! Only if you were very stupid.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Mar 17 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Only if you were very stupid. I rest my case m'lud.
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 Penge Eagle Beckenham 22 Mar 17 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It wouldn't come under 'Hate Crime'. Your's wouldn't either I'd imagine. But used within the context of a proper hate speech then it would. You are talking crap. Calling someone "scum" is not against the law! Who said anything about "hate speech"? Talk about moving the goalposts to fit your argument.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 22 Mar 17 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If Nick Griffin went on Question Time and referred to specific ethnics as 'scum' he'd be up before a judge before you could say BN.. Surprised you don't know where the line can't be crossed. No, you are wrong.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 22 Mar 17 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by Pista
does that same rule apply to the word c***? YES! I know it might upset you snowflakes...
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 22 Mar 17 7.06pm |
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Oh please let this go Gold . .Not only do we have a Mod but also a co founder of HOL involved. Its kin brilliant. Btw did the OP err enjoy his stay in said scummy hotel Just asking
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| Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 22 Mar 17 7.08pm |
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I have just asked someone who works on the triangle and knows the Hotel well there response was don't stay there. I hope this helps
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