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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Mar 17 10.08am
Originally posted by nickgusset Here we go again... You say they're terrorist sympathisers but can't explain why. It's for me to rebutt evidence you give. So far you have given none. You pursued your usual tedious tactic and you got an answer. Two answers. I don't need to justify my list. You got what you asked for. Go and find me some examples of where the people mentioned clearly and unambiguously condemned terrorists. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Mar 2017 10.09am)
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Here we go again... You say they're terrorist sympathisers but can't explain why. It's for me to rebutt evidence you give. So far you have given none.

You pursued your usual tedious tactic and you got an answer. Two answers.

I don't need to justify my list. You got what you asked for.
Go and find me some examples of where the people mentioned clearly and unambiguously condemned terrorists.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Mar 17 10.09am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Ooh there 'orrible, I couldn't love one. All those tattoos and houses full of flags. Yuk. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Mar 2017 10.05am) Very good. Now I am very interested (and I'm sure one or two others are too) in why you think I'm a terrorist apologist. Or is it a case of winduppery on your part.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Mar 17 10.09am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Ooh there 'orrible, I couldn't love one.
All those tattoos and houses full of flags. Yuk.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Mar 2017 10.05am)

Very good. Now I am very interested (and I'm sure one or two others are too) in why you think I'm a terrorist apologist. Or is it a case of winduppery on your part.

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Mar 17 10.10am
Originally posted by nickgusset How have any of them shown themselves to be 'apologists'. How many of them have openly condemned such actions? Especially Galloway who has spouted his anti-semitism bile for years, I have had the pleasure of dealing with him and his wife, whilst trying to do my job...you could not wish to meet two more obnoxious people
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Horsham 23 Mar 17 10.10am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How have any of them shown themselves to be 'apologists'.

How many of them have openly condemned such actions? Especially Galloway who has spouted his anti-semitism bile for years, I have had the pleasure of dealing with him and his wife, whilst trying to do my job...you could not wish to meet two more obnoxious people

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Mar 17 10.13am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You pursued your usual tedious tactic and you got an answer. Two answers. I don't need to justify my list. You got what you asked for. Go and find me some examples of where the people mentioned clearly and unambiguously condemned terrorists. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Mar 2017 10.09am) You can't justify what you think?
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Shizzlehurst 23 Mar 17 10.13am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You pursued your usual tedious tactic and you got an answer. Two answers.

I don't need to justify my list. You got what you asked for.
Go and find me some examples of where the people mentioned clearly and unambiguously condemned terrorists.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Mar 2017 10.09am)

You can't justify what you think?

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Mar 17 10.15am
Originally posted by nickgusset You can't justify what you think? I'll await your examples of those people unambiguously condemning terrorists. It should be easy right?
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23 Mar 17 10.15am

Originally posted by nickgusset

You can't justify what you think?

I'll await your examples of those people unambiguously condemning terrorists.

It should be easy right?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Mar 17 10.35am
There is a difference from understanding why and how certain things occur, and supporting it. I know there are people who think we should all be saluting the flag, obeying orders, thinking right thoughts and never questioning or understanding anything except the party line. But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them. If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 23 Mar 17 10.35am

But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them.

If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Mar 17 10.38am
Originally posted by nickgusset How have any of them shown themselves to be 'apologists'. Owen refused to accept that the Orlando club attack, as well as being an attack on gay people, was also in support of IS (the gunman phoned the police and said it was in support of IS!). Livingstone said the 7/7 attacks were people 'giving their lives' because the UK invasion of Iraq (all our own fault yet again. Yesterday, he also tried to deflect discussion of the latest, Islamic inspired terrorist attack, by talking about right wing groups stockpiling guns. Corbyn refers to the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist groups as 'friends'. He also helped Sein Fein/IRA by inviting them to the Houses of Parliament. Khan said terror attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city". (You know, similar to Jamie as he recently posted, that a few terrorist killings are worth all the benefits we get from mass immigration.) Galloway, along with his numerous statements in support of terrorist activities against Israel, gave �25,000 of his own money to the terrorist group Hamas. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Mar 17 10.38am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How have any of them shown themselves to be 'apologists'.

Owen refused to accept that the Orlando club attack, as well as being an attack on gay people, was also in support of IS (the gunman phoned the police and said it was in support of IS!).

Livingstone said the 7/7 attacks were people 'giving their lives' because the UK invasion of Iraq (all our own fault yet again. Yesterday, he also tried to deflect discussion of the latest, Islamic inspired terrorist attack, by talking about right wing groups stockpiling guns.

Corbyn refers to the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist groups as 'friends'. He also helped Sein Fein/IRA by inviting them to the Houses of Parliament.

Khan said terror attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city". (You know, similar to Jamie as he recently posted, that a few terrorist killings are worth all the benefits we get from mass immigration.)

Galloway, along with his numerous statements in support of terrorist activities against Israel, gave �25,000 of his own money to the terrorist group Hamas.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Mar 17 10.39am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 There is a difference from understanding why and how certain things occur, and supporting it. I know there are people who think we should all be saluting the flag, obeying orders, thinking right thoughts and never questioning or understanding anything except the party line. But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them. If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know. You must have been reading my thoughts. Was about to post similar. [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 23 Mar 17 10.39am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them.

If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know.

You must have been reading my thoughts. Was about to post similar.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Mar 17 10.42am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 There is a difference from understanding why and how certain things occur, and supporting it. I know there are people who think we should all be saluting the flag, obeying orders, thinking right thoughts and never questioning or understanding anything except the party line. But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them. If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know. I find that rather funny, as one can predict exactly what line the left wing posters on here will take on practically any issue. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 23 Mar 17 10.42am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

There is a difference from understanding why and how certain things occur, and supporting it. I know there are people who think we should all be saluting the flag, obeying orders, thinking right thoughts and never questioning or understanding anything except the party line.

But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them.

If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know.

I find that rather funny, as one can predict exactly what line the left wing posters on here will take on practically any issue.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 23 Mar 17 10.44am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 So what should we as a nation do? Look for peaceful ways to ensure that the Islamic population doesn't rise beyond a certain percentage point of the population. It is at five percent....that is a doubling of the population over ten years I believe. This should not be allowed to rise to ten. The higher the population percent the higher the number of extremists. Close down religious schools of all types. Support Islamic reformists. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Mar 17 10.44am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

So what should we as a nation do?

Look for peaceful ways to ensure that the Islamic population doesn't rise beyond a certain percentage point of the population.

It is at five percent....that is a doubling of the population over ten years I believe. This should not be allowed to rise to ten.

The higher the population percent the higher the number of extremists.

Close down religious schools of all types.

Support Islamic reformists.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 23 Mar 17 10.45am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Owen refused to accept that the Orlando club attack, as well as being an attack on gay people, was also in support of IS (the gunman phoned the police and said it was in support of IS!). Doesn't make him an apologist. And there are plenty of articles online of him condemning terrorist attacks (for example Turkey attacks) Quote Livingstone said the 7/7 attacks were people 'giving their lives' because the UK invasion of Iraq (all our own fault yet again. Yesterday, he also tried to deflect discussion of the latest, Islamic inspired terrorist attack, by talking about right wing groups stockpiling guns. Corbyn refers to the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist groups as 'friends'. He also helped Sein Fein/IRA by inviting them to the Houses of Parliament. I saw the Queen had been caught on camera shaking McGuiness' hand. She must be an apologist as well Quote Khan said terror attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city". (You know, similar to Jamie as he recently posted, that a few terrorist killings are worth all the benefits we get from mass immigration.) Ludicrously ludicrously out of context. And as someone who regularly does receive death threats from Islamic terrorist groups, he is no apologist. Quote Galloway, along with his numerous statements in support of terrorist activities against Israel, gave �25,000 of his own money to the terrorist group Hamas. G Galloway is a tw@t Edited by OknotOK (23 Mar 2017 10.45am) "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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Cockfosters, London 23 Mar 17 10.45am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Owen refused to accept that the Orlando club attack, as well as being an attack on gay people, was also in support of IS (the gunman phoned the police and said it was in support of IS!).

Doesn't make him an apologist. And there are plenty of articles online of him condemning terrorist attacks (for example Turkey attacks)

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Livingstone said the 7/7 attacks were people 'giving their lives' because the UK invasion of Iraq (all our own fault yet again. Yesterday, he also tried to deflect discussion of the latest, Islamic inspired terrorist attack, by talking about right wing groups stockpiling guns.

Corbyn refers to the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist groups as 'friends'. He also helped Sein Fein/IRA by inviting them to the Houses of Parliament.

I saw the Queen had been caught on camera shaking McGuiness' hand. She must be an apologist as well

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Khan said terror attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city". (You know, similar to Jamie as he recently posted, that a few terrorist killings are worth all the benefits we get from mass immigration.)

Ludicrously ludicrously out of context. And as someone who regularly does receive death threats from Islamic terrorist groups, he is no apologist.

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Galloway, along with his numerous statements in support of terrorist activities against Israel, gave �25,000 of his own money to the terrorist group Hamas.

G
Galloway is a tw@t

Edited by OknotOK (23 Mar 2017 10.45am)

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Mar 17 10.47am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 There is a difference from understanding why and how certain things occur, and supporting it. I know there are people who think we should all be saluting the flag, obeying orders, thinking right thoughts and never questioning or understanding anything except the party line. But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them. If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know. We all know why things occur and any reasonable person can put themselves inside the minds of another, but sometimes we have to take sides. My side is the side of self preservation. I defend what I care about and my consideration for anyone who threatens that is minimal. Government has endangered the safety of the public with their policies. I guarantee you that politicians will ensure that security measures are greatly increased around Westminster but what of the rest of us? The loss of life among the plebs will remain acceptable collateral damage.
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23 Mar 17 10.47am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

But then they'll go on and on and on and on, about 'thought crime', freedom of speech and all manner of other contradictions, when it suits them.

If understanding why things happens makes me a sympathiser, then I'm a sympathiser. I'd rather know.

We all know why things occur and any reasonable person can put themselves inside the minds of another, but sometimes we have to take sides.
My side is the side of self preservation. I defend what I care about and my consideration for anyone who threatens that is minimal. Government has endangered the safety of the public with their policies.
I guarantee you that politicians will ensure that security measures are greatly increased around Westminster but what of the rest of us? The loss of life among the plebs will remain acceptable collateral damage.

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