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Hands up who wants to sit or stand next to the guy waving the red hot flare about.

 

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View Dan1994's Profile Dan1994 Flag Wallington 04 Apr 17 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Dan1994 Add Dan1994 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I'm assuming a home made smoke bomb, which tend to be similar to flares? We used to make these for paintball games, and they burn pretty hot. Also if you don't add a moderation chemical or sufficient moderator, its effectively an explosive.

Even commercially available ones are classed as a pyrotechnic, because they are effectively a explosive reaction, which is controlled by the moderating chemical slowing the oxidiser and the accelerant.


They would be a pyrotechnic because a you light them, I'm guessing? As someone who's used them for recreational activity, what's your take on them in that situation? From my understanding, the stuff that comes out is only toxic depending on what you make it from?

The article above alluded to a marine flare, which is basically like a firework, which I don't think are like smoke bombs.

 


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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 04 Apr 17 12.56pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

This side issue as you call it will surely be in Steve Parish's mind when he gets the bill for the damage and the hefty fine for the prize immature prats that let of flares and did damage in Chelsea's stadium. Plus the bad press we are going to get when the FA gets going and charges us... You need to think before posting such crap yourself!

Stop wetting your pants about it - was there any actual damage done? We all know away fans let off flares at Selhurst all the time, even throwing them on the pitch at times. Not good, but not exactly the end of the world either.

If you want football to be sanitised and packaged for the tourists then I suggest you don't go to away games and only sit in the family section at SP. Don't want you getting scared of any loud bangs now do we?

 


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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 04 Apr 17 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Chelsea fan on 606 kept calling flares "firebombs".

Some people need to get a grip.

 


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Chill out!
Boys will be boys...

 

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phillanth Flag London 04 Apr 17 1.53pm

Originally posted by leejaneagles

Genuine question and I do expect a lot of negative responses but it's only to fuel a debate - Are away games supposed to be for kids?

I have been taking my son to away games since he was 7 (he is now 20). He used to stand on the seat when everybody else was standing up and it was fine. Fellow fans were always very nice and used to move out of the way so he could see when possible. He always loved it as we always seem to make more noise way from home.

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 04 Apr 17 3.05pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Seth

Stop wetting your pants about it - was there any actual damage done? We all know away fans let off flares at Selhurst all the time, even throwing them on the pitch at times. Not good, but not exactly the end of the world either.

If you want football to be sanitised and packaged for the tourists then I suggest you don't go to away games and only sit in the family section at SP. Don't want you getting scared of any loud bangs now do we?

I sometimes wonder if you are old enough to be on these boards...NO ONE is wetting themselves over the flares and YES there was damage done to the toilets and seats by OUR fans which in turn will bring bad publicity to our club. Steve Parish is going the love the fine that the club will get let alone the media coverage and the FA putting there oar in on top.
Its got nothing to do with sanitising a package for the tourists as you put it. For god sake grow up and see the damage this has done to our club yet AGAIN through a few unintelligent people who act like morons and drag our club through the sh1t again!

 


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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 04 Apr 17 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I sometimes wonder if you are old enough to be on these boards...NO ONE is wetting themselves over the flares and YES there was damage done to the toilets and seats by OUR fans which in turn will bring bad publicity to our club. Steve Parish is going the love the fine that the club will get let alone the media coverage and the FA putting there oar in on top.
Its got nothing to do with sanitising a package for the tourists as you put it. For god sake grow up and see the damage this has done to our club yet AGAIN through a few unintelligent people who act like morons and drag our club through the sh1t again!

You say you're not wetting your pants then go on a mad RANT using CAPITALS which only reinforces my point that you are getting things way out of proportion and may need a lie-down in a darkened room for a bit until you regain your composure.

Why don't we just wait and see what, if any, fine the club gets, or bad publicity, or damage to the club, or FA sanctions, or whatever, before we have a aneurysm, shall we?

In the meantime let's all stay sane and calm and not let a few flares ruin what was one of the best results we've seen in a very long time.

 


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Originally posted by Seth

Stop wetting your pants about it - was there any actual damage done? We all know away fans let off flares at Selhurst all the time, even throwing them on the pitch at times. Not good, but not exactly the end of the world either.

If you want football to be sanitised and packaged for the tourists then I suggest you don't go to away games and only sit in the family section at SP. Don't want you getting scared of any loud bangs now do we?

Completely agree with SETH and others of a similar view.
I have no problems whatsowever with flares and a few bangs every now and then.You only need to stand somewhere else[which is usualy easy to do at away games]
To me they add to atmosphere especially at an AWAY DAY.
A good pub crawl also adds to the Match Day experience.Blackfriars was a good laugh Saturday.

UpThePalace

 


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Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Hands up who wants to sit or stand next to the guy waving the red hot flare about.

Love it !

But to be serious ...when liverpool came last time they threw a flare onto the pitch and nothings said. We let some flares off and jonathan Pearce goes on about it on MOTD saying the FA may have to take action etc against the club.
Not condoning the use of flares by the way unless one is put up Clattenburgs penalty area.

COYP

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 04 Apr 17 7.15pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Seth

You say you're not wetting your pants then go on a mad RANT using CAPITALS which only reinforces my point that you are getting things way out of proportion and may need a lie-down in a darkened room for a bit until you regain your composure.

Why don't we just wait and see what, if any, fine the club gets, or bad publicity, or damage to the club, or FA sanctions, or whatever, before we have a aneurysm, shall we?

In the meantime let's all stay sane and calm and not let a few flares ruin what was one of the best results we've seen in a very long time.

I think you are the one that needs to crawl back into your darkened room as you just do not see how damaging this is to the club and of course the cost and bad publicity that will more than likely happen once the FA stick their oar in.
Why don't you realise that flares might be fun to some even though it is against the rules and it can be dangerous. You are far too quick to side with the idiots at the away end at Chelsea who threw the flares, damaged seats and wrecked the toilets. It gives me a good idea of what sort of person you are Seth it really does. Wow what a supporter you turned out to be!

 


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Originally posted by Dan1994

"John Hill was standing next to his father, also John, 67, when he was hit at the end of the Wales-Romania game in Cardiff in November 1993."

He was hit by a marine flare. I don't think anyone here is condoning the use of what is basically a firework being aimed at people. Smoke bombs and the flare used at Stamford Bridge on Saturday aren't a marine flare. Flares I can understand the concern, but smoke bombs I don't see the issue.

But yes, let's use misinformation and fear mongering, rather than having an actual discussion using facts.

Edited by Dan1994 (04 Apr 2017 10.54am)


Spot on...There will always be those that will scaremonger to support their stance

 


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