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RH8Eagle Oxted 04 Apr 17 8.53pm
Obviously flares and smoke bombs are not Ideal and I would not risk bringing one to a game especially as you could find yourself banned. But I half expect this type of thing especially at an away derby game. I am an experienced supporter and feel I can read how the supporters are around me or in the pubs or station etc. I often take my lad now 14 and don't have any problems. At Chelsea we moved forward a bit as were stuck under the upper tier we stood in the isle not a problem. If I found my seat in the middle of the HF ( keep it up lads ) I would move a bit and enjoy the trip. In the old days if you scored you would hear the coins raining in that was a lot more freaky
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Oxted 04 Apr 17 8.53pm

Obviously flares and smoke bombs are not Ideal and I would not risk bringing one to a game especially as you could find yourself banned. But I half expect this type of thing especially at an away derby game. I am an experienced supporter and feel I can read how the supporters are around me or in the pubs or station etc. I often take my lad now 14 and don't have any problems. At Chelsea we moved forward a bit as were stuck under the upper tier we stood in the isle not a problem. If I found my seat in the middle of the HF ( keep it up lads ) I would move a bit and enjoy the trip. In the old days if you scored you would hear the coins raining in that was a lot more freaky

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Apr 17 1.09pm
Originally posted by bicycle repair man It may seem strange in your world that a someone would be happy to watch a game of football without taking a box of fireworks with them,but that's me. And by the way it does weaken your argument if you have to resort to calling people silly childish names to prove your point. I agree with you mate I always thought you went to a football match to watch the game but it seems I was wrong with some of the stupid posts on this thread and name calling you have just had. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Apr 17 1.09pm

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

It may seem strange in your world that a someone would be happy to watch a game of football without taking a box of fireworks with them,but that's me.
And by the way it does weaken your argument if you have to resort to calling people silly childish names to prove your point.

I agree with you mate I always thought you went to a football match to watch the game but it seems I was wrong with some of the stupid posts on this thread and name calling you have just had.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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paperhat croydon 05 Apr 17 1.18pm
Originally posted by RH8Eagle Obviously flares and smoke bombs are not Ideal and I would not risk bringing one to a game especially as you could find yourself banned. But I half expect this type of thing especially at an away derby game. I am an experienced supporter and feel I can read how the supporters are around me or in the pubs or station etc. I often take my lad now 14 and don't have any problems. At Chelsea we moved forward a bit as were stuck under the upper tier we stood in the isle not a problem. If I found my seat in the middle of the HF ( keep it up lads ) I would move a bit and enjoy the trip. In the old days if you scored you would hear the coins raining in that was a lot more freaky now, good old fashioned coin chucking, that's more like it. why did that die out i wonder? Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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croydon 05 Apr 17 1.18pm

Originally posted by RH8Eagle

now, good old fashioned coin chucking, that's more like it. why did that die out i wonder?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 4.00pm
Originally posted by Dan1994 They would be a pyrotechnic because a you light them, I'm guessing? As someone who's used them for recreational activity, what's your take on them in that situation? From my understanding, the stuff that comes out is only toxic depending on what you make it from? The article above alluded to a marine flare, which is basically like a firework, which I don't think are like smoke bombs. Recreationally, you tend to let people know you're using them and probably not in a crowded space. They're a pyrotechnic because they're a controlled explosive (the moderator chemical means the reaction is slowed down rather than rapid. The oxidiser and accelerates in most flares and smoke bombs are an explosive compound). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Originally posted by Dan1994

They would be a pyrotechnic because a you light them, I'm guessing? As someone who's used them for recreational activity, what's your take on them in that situation? From my understanding, the stuff that comes out is only toxic depending on what you make it from?

The article above alluded to a marine flare, which is basically like a firework, which I don't think are like smoke bombs.

Recreationally, you tend to let people know you're using them and probably not in a crowded space. They're a pyrotechnic because they're a controlled explosive (the moderator chemical means the reaction is slowed down rather than rapid. The oxidiser and accelerates in most flares and smoke bombs are an explosive compound).

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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 4.04pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 I'd be happy to stand in a section that was allowed smoke bombs, flags and horns I think this is more the issue, that there isn't some regulation to allow this for clubs. 95% of the time there isn't really any issue, except for surprise from the bangers. Could be an issue for some people, but if they knew that there were pyrotechnics they could be forwarned. An example of the issue with bangers, my wife has an issue with loud bangs (ooer) from her days in the SA police reserve when she was involved in a protracted shoot out, and a close friend of hers died in her arms. If its a surprise it brings it all 'right back'. But with flares, ideally I suspect it would be better if the person was right down the front, so it could be thrown onto the pitch side (if anything goes wrong, or to dispose of). Edited by jamiemartin721 (05 Apr 2017 4.07pm) "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 05 Apr 17 4.04pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

I'd be happy to stand in a section that was allowed smoke bombs, flags and horns

I think this is more the issue, that there isn't some regulation to allow this for clubs. 95% of the time there isn't really any issue, except for surprise from the bangers. Could be an issue for some people, but if they knew that there were pyrotechnics they could be forwarned.

An example of the issue with bangers, my wife has an issue with loud bangs (ooer) from her days in the SA police reserve when she was involved in a protracted shoot out, and a close friend of hers died in her arms. If its a surprise it brings it all 'right back'.

But with flares, ideally I suspect it would be better if the person was right down the front, so it could be thrown onto the pitch side (if anything goes wrong, or to dispose of).

Edited by jamiemartin721 (05 Apr 2017 4.07pm)

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Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Apr 17 4.11pm
Originally posted by susmik I think you are the one that needs to crawl back into your darkened room as you just do not see how damaging this is to the club and of course the cost and bad publicity that will more than likely happen once the FA stick their oar in. Why don't you realise that flares might be fun to some even though it is against the rules and it can be dangerous. You are far too quick to side with the idiots at the away end at Chelsea who threw the flares, damaged seats and wrecked the toilets. It gives me a good idea of what sort of person you are Seth it really does. Wow what a supporter you turned out to be! I am the "sort of person" who doesn't get their knickers in a twist over a few flares at a big London derby. Happens all the time at Selhurst and I don't worry too much about it then either. It's not a big deal. I think you can see by the posts on this thread that most others aren't wetting their pants over this either. Most people are still buzzing that we beat the runaway league leaders on their own patch and not moaning and crying that a couple of flares spoilt the day, like you are. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 05 Apr 17 4.11pm

Originally posted by susmik

I think you are the one that needs to crawl back into your darkened room as you just do not see how damaging this is to the club and of course the cost and bad publicity that will more than likely happen once the FA stick their oar in.
Why don't you realise that flares might be fun to some even though it is against the rules and it can be dangerous. You are far too quick to side with the idiots at the away end at Chelsea who threw the flares, damaged seats and wrecked the toilets. It gives me a good idea of what sort of person you are Seth it really does. Wow what a supporter you turned out to be!

I am the "sort of person" who doesn't get their knickers in a twist over a few flares at a big London derby. Happens all the time at Selhurst and I don't worry too much about it then either. It's not a big deal.

I think you can see by the posts on this thread that most others aren't wetting their pants over this either. Most people are still buzzing that we beat the runaway league leaders on their own patch and not moaning and crying that a couple of flares spoilt the day, like you are.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 4.14pm
Originally posted by Seth I am the "sort of person" who doesn't get their knickers in a twist over a few flares at a big London derby. Happens all the time at Selhurst and I don't worry too much about it then either. It's not a big deal. Been a while since we had one of them None of our London games really feel like a derby, compared to our South London games. Still, if we stay up, we'll have Brighton next season. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 05 Apr 17 4.14pm

Originally posted by Seth

I am the "sort of person" who doesn't get their knickers in a twist over a few flares at a big London derby. Happens all the time at Selhurst and I don't worry too much about it then either. It's not a big deal.

Been a while since we had one of them None of our London games really feel like a derby, compared to our South London games. Still, if we stay up, we'll have Brighton next season.

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 05 Apr 17 4.17pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger Atmosphere looked amazing! Truly amazing. I doubt we'd have won without HF creating so much noise. Please tell me that this sentence is a joke??? Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Atmosphere looked amazing! Truly amazing. I doubt we'd have won without HF creating so much noise.

Please tell me that this sentence is a joke???

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Apr 17 4.38pm
Originally posted by Seth I am the "sort of person" who doesn't get their knickers in a twist over a few flares at a big London derby. Happens all the time at Selhurst and I don't worry too much about it then either. It's not a big deal. I think you can see by the posts on this thread that most others aren't wetting their pants over this either. Most people are still buzzing that we beat the runaway league leaders on their own patch and not moaning and crying that a couple of flares spoilt the day, like you are. I assure you it did not spoil my day and I do not have my knickers in a twist as you put it. As for you thinking its not a big deal then I suggest you direct your post to Steve Parish and see what he says. My youngest grandson has more sense than you by your very childish accusations and ranting's. I suggest you read through this thread again and see that most people are agreeing with me that it was a childish and moronic thing to do at Chelsea and bringing our club into disrepute by a few idiots. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Apr 17 4.38pm

Originally posted by Seth

I assure you it did not spoil my day and I do not have my knickers in a twist as you put it. As for you thinking its not a big deal then I suggest you direct your post to Steve Parish and see what he says. My youngest grandson has more sense than you by your very childish accusations and ranting's.
I suggest you read through this thread again and see that most people are agreeing with me that it was a childish and moronic thing to do at Chelsea and bringing our club into disrepute by a few idiots.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Seth On a pale blue dot 05 Apr 17 4.55pm
Originally posted by susmik I assure you it did not spoil my day and I do not have my knickers in a twist as you put it. As for you thinking its not a big deal then I suggest you direct your post to Steve Parish and see what he says. My youngest grandson has more sense than you by your very childish accusations and ranting's. I suggest you read through this thread again and see that most people are agreeing with me that it was a childish and moronic thing to do at Chelsea and bringing our club into disrepute by a few idiots. Steve Parish is big enough to look after his own interests and I haven't seen him, or anyone else with any sense, wet their knickers over a few flares. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 05 Apr 17 4.55pm

Originally posted by susmik

Steve Parish is big enough to look after his own interests and I haven't seen him, or anyone else with any sense, wet their knickers over a few flares.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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.TUX. 05 Apr 17 5.10pm
Originally posted by susmik I assure you it did not spoil my day and I do not have my knickers in a twist as you put it. As for you thinking its not a big deal then I suggest you direct your post to Steve Parish and see what he says. My youngest grandson has more sense than you by your very childish accusations and ranting's. I suggest you read through this thread again and see that most people are agreeing with me that it was a childish and moronic thing to do at Chelsea and bringing our club into disrepute by a few idiots. You do seem to. Buy Litecoin.
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05 Apr 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by susmik

I assure you it did not spoil my day and I do not have my knickers in a twist as you put it. As for you thinking its not a big deal then I suggest you direct your post to Steve Parish and see what he says. My youngest grandson has more sense than you by your very childish accusations and ranting's.
I suggest you read through this thread again and see that most people are agreeing with me that it was a childish and moronic thing to do at Chelsea and bringing our club into disrepute by a few idiots.

You do seem to.

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paperhat croydon 05 Apr 17 5.42pm
Originally posted by Seth Steve Parish is big enough to look after his own interests and I haven't seen him, or anyone else with any sense, wet their knickers over a few flares. and you know of what he's been upto over the past few days with regards to security and safety at the club do you? i think not. Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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croydon 05 Apr 17 5.42pm

Originally posted by Seth

Steve Parish is big enough to look after his own interests and I haven't seen him, or anyone else with any sense, wet their knickers over a few flares.

and you know of what he's been upto over the past few days with regards to security and safety at the club do you? i think not.

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