Race hate crime in Croydon.
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hedgehog50  Croydon 05 Apr 17 6.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Does this mean we can ignore the statistics about immigration as we don't know how reliable the information the home office receives is? If they are based on random people, phoning up or emailing, saying how many immigrants they think there are, then yes.
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 Mapletree Croydon 05 Apr 17 6.26pm |
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It seems possible this wasn't a race hate crime, not directly anyway. The way I hear it the lad in question was in the pub (despite being 17) when an altercation broke out. Rumoured to be about gold rather bizarrely. Instead of making himself scarce he hung around outside, which apparently wasn't wise. I don't know the truth, only rumour. But I also don't trust the Press. Separately I tried to find out if this large group that attacked him is some kind of local feral gang but as far as I can tell that isn't the case.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 05 Apr 17 7.26pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It seems possible this wasn't a race hate crime, not directly anyway. The way I hear it the lad in question was in the pub (despite being 17) when an altercation broke out. Rumoured to be about gold rather bizarrely. Instead of making himself scarce he hung around outside, which apparently wasn't wise. I don't know the truth, only rumour. But I also don't trust the Press. Separately I tried to find out if this large group that attacked him is some kind of local feral gang but as far as I can tell that isn't the case. Not trying to be a clever dick here but should people be discussing hearsay and rumour about this case when legal procedure is ongoing?
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| Mapletree Croydon 05 Apr 17 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Not trying to be a clever dick here but should people be discussing hearsay and rumour about this case when legal procedure is ongoing? Yes you are, as usual. Why don't you tell that to the Daily Mail and all those pillocks on the telly who said they heard he was called out due to admitting he was an asylum seeker.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 06 Apr 17 8.35am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Yes you are, as usual. Why don't you tell that to the Daily Mail and all those pillocks on the telly who said they heard he was called out due to admitting he was an asylum seeker. Fine mate. It won't be me who gets sued.
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 becky over the moon 06 Apr 17 9.14am |
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I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms? One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour. Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 06 Apr 17 9.33am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Does this mean we can ignore the statistics about immigration as we don't know how reliable the information the home office receives is? Probably. I expect the figures are actually higher, and that does not include illegals of course. Thanks for asking.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 06 Apr 17 9.51am |
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Originally posted by becky
I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms? One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour. Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?. I read in one paper that the guy was in the pub and was having a ruckus with some other people and it spilled out onto the street and he was not stood at a bus stop minding his own business as was previously reported. It shows how different news outlets have a different idea to what we have been told?
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Kermit8  Hevon 06 Apr 17 9.51am |
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Originally posted by becky
I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms? One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour. Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?. Think you need some new glasses becks. His eyelids and around are black and blue. Also, if he got viciously kicked whilst on the ground it would probably be bruising to his body. The attack took place and it was nasty according to the witnesses so far but if the media have exaggerated it - of course they have - it doesn't sound like it has been by too much.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Apr 17 9.56am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
If they are based on random people, phoning up or emailing, saying how many immigrants they think there are, then yes. Are they though, based on random people phoning up or emailing them.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 06 Apr 17 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Think you need some new glasses becks. His eyelids and around are black and blue. Also, if he got viciously kicked whilst on the ground it would probably be bruising to his body. The attack took place and it was nasty according to the witnesses so far but if the media have exaggerated it - of course they have - it doesn't sound like it has been by too much. It is a bit ridiculous to argue about how badly someone has been beaten up.
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| Oliver Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 9.56am |
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Originally posted by becky
I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms? One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour. Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?. I think you're being cynical the attack left him unconscious, with a fractured skull and spine and a blood clot on the brain
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