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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Apr 17 9.57am

Originally posted by becky

I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms?

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One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour.

Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?.

Possibly because the near fatal injury was an internal bleed into the brain.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Think you need some new glasses becks. His eyelids and around are black and blue. Also, if he got viciously kicked whilst on the ground it would probably be bruising to his body.

The attack took place and it was nasty according to the witnesses so far but if the media have exaggerated it - of course they have - it doesn't sound like it has been by too much.

Yes, indeed he looks very dark around the eyelids - which would imply that there were blows to the face and head - so where is the swelling that would normally accompany this?

Also, even if the main beating was to the body, wouldn't he have used his arms to protect either his body and/or his face, and thus also been bruised?

I'm not saying that it wasn't a nasty beating, but the photos do not seem to bear out the severity that was reported.

 


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View Oliver's Profile Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 10.06am Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I read in one paper that the guy was in the pub and was having a ruckus with some other people and it spilled out onto the street and he was not stood at a bus stop minding his own business as was previously reported. It shows how different news outlets have a different idea to what we have been told?

I'm interested what paper was it in

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Apr 17 10.24am

Originally posted by Oliver

I'm interested what paper was it in

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 10.31am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Any rise in 'hate' crimes here since Brexit will seem like a tambourine-infested Kumbaya picnic compared to what will be unleashed in France should the Far Right/Le Pen have their 'moment' and win the election.

And it won't be just those of an Arabic hue that will be the recipients of their 'celebrations'

Are you now a "soothsayer" Kermit?

All your latest posts predict Doom... like that character "Senna the soothsayer" in Up Pompeii who used to shout out "Woe, Woe and thrice Woe" to Lurkio (Frankie Howerd)!

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Apr 17 10.36am

Surely Private Frazer is more appropriate for Kermit, what with his solid Scottish roots?

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 10.37am

Originally posted by Oliver

I think you're being cynical the attack left him unconscious, with a fractured skull and spine and a blood clot on the brain

And you know all this with 100% accuracy of certainty do you?

Or... like the rest of us... you are relying upon "information" supplied by the Media based upon hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

Or were you one of the Ambulance crew first at the scene?

 

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

And you know all this with 100% accuracy of certainty do you?

Or... like the rest of us... you are relying upon "information" supplied by the Media based upon hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

Or were you one of the Ambulance crew first at the scene?

Yeah you're right. Unless you're there to witness something first hand it didn't happen. You can't believe anything the media says. In fact you can't even believe the ambulance crew who are second on the scene.

The injuries sustained where given in evidence by the Prosecution in Croydon Magistrates Court on 3 April. I don't think the evidence relating to his injuries in this case is based on hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

 


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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 11.36am

Originally posted by Oliver

Yeah you're right. Unless you're there to witness something first hand it didn't happen. You can't believe anything the media says. In fact you can't even believe the ambulance crew who are second on the scene.

The injuries sustained where given in evidence by the Prosecution in Croydon Magistrates Court on 3 April. I don't think the evidence relating to his injuries in this case is based on hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

So you were at the hearing in Croydon Magistrates Court were you?

 

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 11.53am

Originally posted by Oliver

There's no point covering your face I know who you are!

 

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Originally posted by Oliver

I'm interested what paper was it in

I think it was the Express as I was in the dentist waiting room when I read it. Cant be sure though but there was short article on how the fight started in the pub and the three lads ran out to the bus stop followed by the gang but two escaped and left their mate to get kicked in so the article said.

 


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