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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 May 17 10.48pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Once again just stereotyping.

I went to a dreadful comprehensive and my wife a slightly less dreadful comprehensive and there were no tutors to be seen.

My daughter got in to her grammar on merit and my son got in on appeal after failing his 11+ by a couple of marks. They both did some practice papers and that is it.

You may have noticed I was talking about Croydon and Sutton. Which Sutton school did they end up in?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 May 17 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

This reminds me about arguing with Americans about gun control.

It isn't about the statistics or really about what's best overall. It's about keeping a system they like and identify with.

People will argue an orange is an apple till the cows come home if they want to. I suppose all you can do is put the evidence out there...for example Finland and ask why it's ok to condemn so many kids to a lower education simply because of where and who they were born to.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 May 17 11.21am

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Amber...

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 29 May 17 11.36am

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Amber...

Better than Red or Green.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 May 17 11.57am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You may have noticed I was talking about Croydon and Sutton. Which Sutton school did they end up in?

So just grammar schools in Sutton and Croydon are a bad idea? Right.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 May 17 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Are you saying you didn't pay for tutoring?

Bully for you Hrolf but as the number of home tutoring jobs shows....plenty do.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2017 10.43pm)

I'm illustrating that it is not necessary or a certainty.

In any case, the 11+ is altered every few years to stop tutoring being so effective.

Realistically, it's pointless to be better educated in terms of job prospects because only so many jobs exist which require A levels, a degree etc. There has to be a large proportion of people to do blue collar,unskilled etc.
High level education for everyone would be purely for the sake of knowledge in itself.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 May 17 7.08pm

He he he She said Turd

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 29 May 17 7.13pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Amber...

Bit of rather old news Nick don't you think???

Dated Thursday 22 September 2016 15.54 BST on your link.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 29 May 17 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm illustrating that it is not necessary or a certainty.

In any case, the 11+ is altered every few years to stop tutoring being so effective.

Realistically, it's pointless to be better educated in terms of job prospects because only so many jobs exist which require A levels, a degree etc. There has to be a large proportion of people to do blue collar,unskilled etc.
High level education for everyone would be purely for the sake of knowledge in itself.

It's an industry, the fact that you downplay it makes no difference to the fact that it's an imperfect and unjust system. Just as long as your family are sorted out eh.

As for the rest of your comments you appear to be advocating for ignorance. You appear completely unaware that most unskilled jobs are disappearing over the next few decades.

A skilled workforce in the right industries is precisely what we need. This idea that we should let the chavs rot is poor future policy for the country.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2017 7.26pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 May 17 7.56pm

Originally posted by susmik

Bit of rather old news Nick don't you think???

Dated Thursday 22 September 2016 15.54 BST on your link.

Still funny though, in a puerile way.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 May 17 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

No hiding tonight, Mrs May.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 May 17 9.41pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's an industry, the fact that you downplay it makes no difference to the fact that it's an imperfect and unjust system. Just as long as your family are sorted out eh.

As for the rest of your comments you appear to be advocating for ignorance. You appear completely unaware that most unskilled jobs are disappearing over the next few decades.

A skilled workforce in the right industries is precisely what we need. This idea that we should let the chavs rot is poor future policy for the country.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 May 2017 7.26pm)

Nope. Just realism. I'm all for knowledge for the sake of it as long as we understand it to be so.
Unskilled jobs will not disappear completely any time soon, even with robots, and right now the workforce has to contain people of various ability.
It's not just about the capacity to learn and be capable of doing a job, it is the desire to do it.

If everyone is highly qualified then they will have hight expectations, which means they will not want to do the less popular and less well paid work.

Only in a utopian society will everyone have a job they like and get well paid while robots do all the dirty work. Is that likely any time soon?

 

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