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 dicky boy  Rainham.........Kent 21 Apr 17 4.26pm |
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I have a Gay Daughter,and when the derby does come around we will both be singing....... We scored 5 they scored None
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| CrazyBadger Online Ware 21 Apr 17 4.43pm |
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Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff
I believe a paedophile is a person who is sexually primarily attracted to pre-pubescent children. If so, doesn't that make it a sexual orientation? Saying that, I completely agree, homosexuals have a consenting partner, a paedophile does not, as a pre-pubescent child can not consent. On the subject of gay chanting, I don't take part in it, but I do recognise that for 95% of those singing it, it's getting a rise out of the opposition and that most of the people taking part are not actually homophobes. Not sure what this fixation with peadofiles and pre-pubescent people is... In this country, a peadophile is someone who has sexual relations with another person under 16 - pre-pubescent or not - So I think is better defined as Someone who has Sexual relations with a partner who cannot give consent due to their Age Homosexuals are simply people who are attacted to people of the same sex. The same 'rules' apply to them as Straight(is that a PC term!?) people.
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| the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 21 Apr 17 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
Not sure what this fixation with peadofiles and pre-pubescent people is... In this country, a peadophile is someone who has sexual relations with another person under 16 - pre-pubescent or not - So I think is better defined as Someone who has Sexual relations with a partner who cannot give consent due to their Age Homosexuals are simply people who are attacted to people of the same sex. The same 'rules' apply to them as Straight(is that a PC term!?) people. I'm sorry to be pedantic, but you are wrong. Paedophilia is definitely defined legally and medically as relating to pre-pubescent children. But yes, it is illegal to have sexual contact with someone under the age of 16. But technically this doesn't necessarily make the adult a paedophile, as it is defined. It still makes them a wrong-un, obviously. And in the eyes of the law it makes no difference, as I understand.
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NKEagle  Pyongyang 21 Apr 17 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Accusing their fans of supporting two clubs will not bring us into disrepute. No way. That's not what's usually meant by "Brighton fans go both ways."
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 21 Apr 17 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff
I thought a pederast is someone interested in pubescent children or very young adults), which sets them apart from a paedophile? I thought they fixed peoples feet
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| the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 21 Apr 17 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff
I'm sorry to be pedantic, but you are wrong. Paedophilia is definitely defined legally and medically as relating to pre-pubescent children. But yes, it is illegal to have sexual contact with someone under the age of 16. But technically this doesn't necessarily make the adult a paedophile, as it is defined. It still makes them a wrong-un, obviously. And in the eyes of the law it makes no difference, as I understand. P.S. It's not exactly a "fixation" I was questioning the definition of a pederast, because I am interested to understand the difference. If you see that as a "fixation" well that's up to you. And for the record I think sexual contact by adults on children is abhorrent, whether they are pre-pubescent or not.
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| the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 21 Apr 17 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I thought they fixed peoples feet Very good
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| Lyons550 Shirley 21 Apr 17 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It is literally just to wind THEM up! Not aimed at the wider community. I've been around since the beginning of the rivalry and it is one game in a blue moon. I refuse to believe that this is real homophobia when you can't hear any anti-gay slurs elsewhere when Palace play.
I bet you anything you could have a rainbow flag with an eagle on it saying 'Glad to be Gay' in the Palace end and receive zero, or practically zero, abuse from Palace fans. They would laugh more than anything I am sure. As we were discussing on another thread...some people reserve the 'right' to take offence at anything they wish regardless of the nature of it...what would happen if people starting feigning 'offence' at people being 'offended' god help us all...
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| Lyons550 Shirley 21 Apr 17 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by CPFCTOM2
So it's ok to use homophobic abuse just to wind people up? Just because homophobic chanting may not be directed at 'real gay' people as you say, or that people don't resort to physical abuse, doesn't make it any less homophobic. Chanting such as that often seen in games against Brighton only serves to further reinforce the stigma of being gay in the football community, and as the statement says, offend not just Brighton fans, but Palace fans as well. It's about time that as a club and a fanbase we grew up and stopped using such purile and immature insults. If someone chanted homophobic abuse at me I'd just ignore them, just as I would if they chanted racial or ginger'ist abuse at me...you know why? because in the real world it's just words and I can rise above it. Has anyone ever thought that bullies thrive on the reaction?
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| Lyons550 Shirley 21 Apr 17 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
That's called felching isn't it ? ...only if you use a straw...
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| Lyons550 Shirley 21 Apr 17 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Seriously why do we or any other club need a proud and palace group anyway. Can't people get on with being gay, felching , rug munching etc without having a committee meeting and going on and on about it. Get a ticket , go to football , watch the game and f*** off home for Christ sake
Oh that's right...bring him in to it!
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| est1905 21 Apr 17 5.38pm |
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One thing that I love about football which differs from every day society is there is abuse, politically incorrect chanting, insults flying around on both sides. Its a case of if you don't like it don't go to football in my opinion. People that say that is an outdated view is a pc lefty that is part of whats wrong with our culture. We cant offend anyone ever! What rubbish.
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