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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 17 1.10pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Well my old man was Scottish & I never heard him say that once If I'm honest. You have been reading to much Oor Wullie my English Rachel Dolezial.... Tell you what - if ever you need a transfusion I'll donate a pint so you can have some English blood and then can finally stop deluding yourself that you already have some Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 24 Apr 17 1.10pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Well my old man was Scottish & I never heard him say that once If I'm honest. You have been reading to much Oor Wullie my English Rachel Dolezial....

Tell you what - if ever you need a transfusion I'll donate a pint so you can have some English blood and then can finally stop deluding yourself that you already have some

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Apr 17 1.13pm
Originally posted by bubble wrap Am ashmed of myself for forgetting, Missed out on going to a march with the EDL in Luton normally a lot of fun exchanging banter with the locals. Am sure at least half the country forget as its not exactly something that is celebrated properly in this country is it. Too many w***ers would protest that its racist and not representive of everyone living in the UK. Happy belated ST Georges Day my English brothers and sisters. Only conquered people celebrate national days Contray to popular opinion, I kind of identify a British and English (as well as Roma) - but it does sometimes concern me that Nationalism in this country has become very much about defining what 'we don't like about others' than what we like about ourselves. Such as the EDL, Britain First and even in Mainstream politics, Nationalism seems to be more about forcing ideals on others, stating what we don't like than celebrating ideals and achievements. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 24 Apr 17 1.13pm

Originally posted by bubble wrap

Am ashmed of myself for forgetting, Missed out on going to a march with the EDL in Luton normally a lot of fun exchanging banter with the locals.
Am sure at least half the country forget as its not exactly something that is celebrated properly in this country is it. Too many w***ers would protest that its racist and not representive of everyone living in the UK.
Happy belated ST Georges Day my English brothers and sisters.

Only conquered people celebrate national days Contray to popular opinion, I kind of identify a British and English (as well as Roma) - but it does sometimes concern me that Nationalism in this country has become very much about defining what 'we don't like about others' than what we like about ourselves.

Such as the EDL, Britain First and even in Mainstream politics, Nationalism seems to be more about forcing ideals on others, stating what we don't like than celebrating ideals and achievements.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 17 1.17pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think people are what they commit to over years. Of course any of us can say we are this or that without any commitment. You have a Scottish father so I don't think anyone can smirk at you saying you're part Scottish if that's what you feel. Though without living there some might say that's more heritage. My father's Northern Irish but lived in England for most of his adult life. But I lived here all of mine and feel one hundred percent English while respecting my heritage. I think for someone to say they are purely this or that they have really have to have lived there during their formative years....Or have committed to it for at least several....with exceptions....some people need to live somewhere due to climate medical needs ete ete. People respect commitment. When Tyson Fury sometimes calls himself Irish I think some had a right to smirk and call him a plastic paddy. He's never lived there...Really he's talking about his heritage....But he is what he commits to. A very fair post. My connection to Scotland has always been strong through family and regular visits and to see where it all started for the ancestors. Pretty grim, if i'm honest where that aspect is concerned. Genuinely supporting Scotland as a young kid in those far off days when we actually qualified for a World Cup. Felt really rotten in '74. No defeats and still eliminated in round one. Palace also got relegated. Just something I was born into. Not brainwashed or owt. Apart from Andy bloody Stewart on the LP every effin' weekend. My dad was no Scottish nationalist but he did love to take the mick out of the sassenachs every now and then but in good humour. Travelling through the place properly though I can't help but feel a sense of pride that half of me is Scottish. It is just so beautiful with stunning scenery and have always felt welcome and comfortable up there. My father-in-law has a salmon run river in his back garden ffs Edited by Kermit8 (24 Apr 2017 1.19pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 24 Apr 17 1.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think people are what they commit to over years.

Of course any of us can say we are this or that without any commitment. You have a Scottish father so I don't think anyone can smirk at you saying you're part Scottish if that's what you feel. Though without living there some might say that's more heritage.

My father's Northern Irish but lived in England for most of his adult life. But I lived here all of mine and feel one hundred percent English while respecting my heritage.

I think for someone to say they are purely this or that they have really have to have lived there during their formative years....Or have committed to it for at least several....with exceptions....some people need to live somewhere due to climate medical needs ete ete.

People respect commitment. When Tyson Fury sometimes calls himself Irish I think some had a right to smirk and call him a plastic paddy. He's never lived there...Really he's talking about his heritage....But he is what he commits to.

A very fair post. My connection to Scotland has always been strong through family and regular visits and to see where it all started for the ancestors. Pretty grim, if i'm honest where that aspect is concerned.

Genuinely supporting Scotland as a young kid in those far off days when we actually qualified for a World Cup. Felt really rotten in '74. No defeats and still eliminated in round one. Palace also got relegated.

Just something I was born into. Not brainwashed or owt. Apart from Andy bloody Stewart on the LP every effin' weekend. My dad was no Scottish nationalist but he did love to take the mick out of the sassenachs every now and then but in good humour.

Travelling through the place properly though I can't help but feel a sense of pride that half of me is Scottish. It is just so beautiful with stunning scenery and have always felt welcome and comfortable up there. My father-in-law has a salmon run river in his back garden ffs

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legaleagle 24 Apr 17 1.20pm
Yup,"love" of country has been hijacked by the right...and its a "I don't like anyone else" kind of nationalism. The reason St George's day is not a big deal is because most of us are comfortable in our combination Englishness and Britishness and don't need to get OTT and excessive about it..
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Yup,"love" of country has been hijacked by the right...and its a "I don't like anyone else" kind of nationalism.

The reason St George's day is not a big deal is because most of us are comfortable in our combination Englishness and Britishness and don't need to get OTT and excessive about it..

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Apr 17 1.22pm
Originally posted by Jimenez You were born in Croydon Kermit you are English albeit with a Scottish father Nope, his nationality British. Whether we agree or not, England is a part of the Union, with Wales and Scotland, and defines a single nationality between those nations (its a bit more complex than that as there are different types of British citizenship entitlement for overseas territories). We can identify as English, but like Welsh and Scottish, our nationality is British. If one or more of your parents are British citizens, irrespective of where you are born, you are automatically entitled to apply for British citizenship "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 24 Apr 17 1.22pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

You were born in Croydon Kermit you are English albeit with a Scottish father

Nope, his nationality British. Whether we agree or not, England is a part of the Union, with Wales and Scotland, and defines a single nationality between those nations (its a bit more complex than that as there are different types of British citizenship entitlement for overseas territories).

We can identify as English, but like Welsh and Scottish, our nationality is British.

If one or more of your parents are British citizens, irrespective of where you are born, you are automatically entitled to apply for British citizenship

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 1.27pm
Originally posted by elgrande So why not say happy St George's day....you did it to get the rise you have acheived...well done you. And I'm not an ilk... I explained that I don't go in for that 'for St George and the Queen ' malarkey. But I still marked the day. I also wished everyone who does like the St George stuff a happy day. Some people go out of there way to be offended. BTW. Any sign of that Merkel caused the Greek debt crisis evidence I was promised?
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Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 1.27pm

Originally posted by elgrande

So why not say happy St George's day....you did it to get the rise you have acheived...well done you.

And I'm not an ilk...

I explained that I don't go in for that 'for St George and the Queen ' malarkey. But I still marked the day. I also wished everyone who does like the St George stuff a happy day.
Some people go out of there way to be offended.
BTW. Any sign of that Merkel caused the Greek debt crisis evidence I was promised?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Apr 17 1.33pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I explained that I don't go in for that 'for St George and the Queen ' malarkey. But I still marked the day. I also wished everyone who does like the St George stuff a happy day. Some people go out of there way to be offended. BTW. Any sign of that Merkel caused the Greek debt crisis evidence I was promised? Also its all a bit Catholic, all this saints business. Assuming your not particularly religious or Catholic, why do people make such a fuss about Patron Saints - especially Protestants, who did away with a lot of that petitioning favour business. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 24 Apr 17 1.33pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Also its all a bit Catholic, all this saints business. Assuming your not particularly religious or Catholic, why do people make such a fuss about Patron Saints - especially Protestants, who did away with a lot of that petitioning favour business.

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elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 1.36pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I explained that I don't go in for that 'for St George and the Queen ' malarkey. But I still marked the day. I also wished everyone who does like the St George stuff a happy day. Some people go out of there way to be offended. BTW. Any sign of that Merkel caused the Greek debt crisis evidence I was promised? I am not very good at doing links,but just Googled it and came up with about 6 or 7 different stories blaming the Germans... always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 24 Apr 17 1.36pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I am not very good at doing links,but just Googled it and came up with about 6 or 7 different stories blaming the Germans...

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 1.50pm
Originally posted by elgrande I am not very good at doing links,but just Googled it and came up with about 6 or 7 different stories blaming the Germans... Copy the Web address then paste it in here. I look forward to reading them.
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Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 1.50pm

Originally posted by elgrande

I am not very good at doing links,but just Googled it and came up with about 6 or 7 different stories blaming the Germans...

Copy the Web address then paste it in here.
I look forward to reading them.

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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 24 Apr 17 2.23pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I explained that I don't go in for that 'for St George and the Queen ' malarkey. But I still marked the day. I also wished everyone who does like the St George stuff a happy day. Some people go out of there way to be offended. BTW. Any sign of that Merkel caused the Greek debt crisis evidence I was promised? Says the fella that goes out of his way to defend those that dont need defending.
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Carparks in South East London 24 Apr 17 2.23pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I explained that I don't go in for that 'for St George and the Queen ' malarkey. But I still marked the day. I also wished everyone who does like the St George stuff a happy day.
Some people go out of there way to be offended.
BTW. Any sign of that Merkel caused the Greek debt crisis evidence I was promised?

Says the fella that goes out of his way to defend those that dont need defending.

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elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 2.28pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Copy the Web address then paste it in here. I look forward to reading them. No bollocks you are just being an arse they are there to see. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 24 Apr 17 2.28pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Copy the Web address then paste it in here.
I look forward to reading them.

No bollocks you are just being an arse they are there to see.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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