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glaziermart Flag 01 May 17 9.12pm

Now that the dust has settled after that defeat to Burnley, it is time to reflect how well our boys have done to put our fate in our own hands. The Burnley performance was disappointing of course, but the more fair-minded of us can see that the Liverpool and Spurs games took a lot out of the players, and the many defensive injuries also affected that performance. Our boys have done tremendous recently to get to 38 points, which most seasons would already see our comfortably safe. When you consider the fixtures we have faced, it is pretty remarkable. The Hull home game is now the pivotal game. If Swansea lose against Everton this Saturday, we are safe anyway. Even if they win or draw, it is still in our own hands, because we would need to win or draw against Hull. Of course this is all based on the fact that we will lose against Man City this weekend!!! Everyone has written this game off already!!! Ignoring our recent results against the top teams. Plus everyone is assuming Swansea will win against Sunderland away, but that could actually be a banana skin for them, because the pressure is now off the Black Cats, and they might start playing better.

Remember how much more difficult it is for Swansea. If they suddenly go a goal down in any of those games, the pressure on them will be immense. They will instantly be in the last chance saloon. That is not the case with us, unless it goes to the last game of the season, which i'm confident it wont. I would still rather be a Palace fan at the moment, than a Swansea fan. Also we cannot ignore Hull, who despite their great run under Silva, are in a similar predicament to Swansea. Their last game is against Spurs, so again (assuming!!) they lost or drew that and won their game against Sunderland, then a draw for us against them would mean they cannot overtake us.

 

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chateauferret Flag 01 May 17 9.44pm

Well we don't want to be sitting there on the last day of the season with the commentator saying "If this this this this this this AND that then Palace will be relegated" because we all know where that ends. I never fancy Old Trafford even with Jose whining about his squad and Spurs will be on the beach, which in their case usually means squabbling amongst themselves about whose fault it all is.

Under normal circumstances you would think there was no chance of Swansea getting seven points in three matches against anyone but we'd be mad to assume that Pulis of all people will bust a gut to help us. I wouldn't think West Brom were above losing that one on purpose.

Everton on the other hand are another matter - they have pride and are a good outfit, and Koeman will want to see a reaction to their result yesterday and to overtake clubs above them. Lukaku will want to cement his top scorer status too. If they play to their potential they ought to be able to demolish Swansea, provided they don't concede lots of free kicks anywhere near the D without taking the precaution of getting Gylfi sent off first.

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Originally posted by glaziermart

Now that the dust has settled after that defeat to Burnley, it is time to reflect how well our boys have done to put our fate in our own hands. The Burnley performance was disappointing of course, but the more fair-minded of us can see that the Liverpool and Spurs games took a lot out of the players, and the many defensive injuries also affected that performance. Our boys have done tremendous recently to get to 38 points, which most seasons would already see our comfortably safe. When you consider the fixtures we have faced, it is pretty remarkable. The Hull home game is now the pivotal game. If Swansea lose against Everton this Saturday, we are safe anyway. Even if they win or draw, it is still in our own hands, because we would need to win or draw against Hull. Of course this is all based on the fact that we will lose against Man City this weekend!!! Everyone has written this game off already!!! Ignoring our recent results against the top teams. Plus everyone is assuming Swansea will win against Sunderland away, but that could actually be a banana skin for them, because the pressure is now off the Black Cats, and they might start playing better.

Remember how much more difficult it is for Swansea. If they suddenly go a goal down in any of those games, the pressure on them will be immense. They will instantly be in the last chance saloon. That is not the case with us, unless it goes to the last game of the season, which i'm confident it wont. I would still rather be a Palace fan at the moment, than a Swansea fan. Also we cannot ignore Hull, who despite their great run under Silva, are in a similar predicament to Swansea. Their last game is against Spurs, so again (assuming!!) they lost or drew that and won their game against Sunderland, then a draw for us against them would mean they cannot overtake us.

Very good analysis. We are still in the box seat in relation to the two directly below us and a couple above are still sweating as well. The Spammers could still be vulnerable as their next 2 games are the Spuds and Pool with a trip to Burnley to finish, who might also still be sweating.

Edited by Booted Eagle (01 May 2017 9.51pm)

 


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View mayler/rh13eagle's Profile mayler/rh13eagle Flag horsham 01 May 17 9.48pm Send a Private Message to mayler/rh13eagle Add mayler/rh13eagle as a friend

With hull at home it's still very much in our hands.

I'm looking at it like if Swansea go unbeaten and draw there remaing games or draw 2 win 1 we are safe. And tbh we are all down there for a reason so that kind of run wouldn't be at all inkeeping with the season they've had to date!

 

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You make some fair points. It's easy to get overwrought because we are up and down like a whore's drawers at the moment. One minute, we're 12th, the next minute we are 16th. So it's no surprise people are getting carried away.

The fact is, we need two teams (Hull and Swansea) to basically win all of their remaining games, and for us to lose everything, in order to be relegated. All of those games in April really caught up to us, and it really puts the wins against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool into perspective: we have a great team and a decent manager. We should be okay.

Personally, I will be satisfied if we simply stay up now after the season we've had. We can build on it next year.

 


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