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jamiemartin721 Reading 07 May 17 1.13pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I just hope that finally the chairman will realise tht you can't do things on the cheap. I'd say we need two center halfs, two strikers, another right back,goalkeeper and a midfielder. That's 7. Outs, Campbell,Chung,Fryers,Delaney,Kelly,Mandander. Pretty much spot on. Kelly I might consider as a back up player (as he can play full back and centre back) but we need two central defenders, a right back, a goal keeper (Pickford from Sunderland maybe) and a defensive minded midfielder. See, we do sometimes agree - All of those players, except maybe Kelly, I'd say are surplus to requirements over several seasons. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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jamiemartin721

Reading 07 May 17 1.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I just hope that finally the chairman will realise tht you can't do things on the cheap.

I'd say we need two center halfs, two strikers, another right back,goalkeeper and a midfielder. That's 7.

Outs,

Campbell,Chung,Fryers,Delaney,Kelly,Mandander.

Pretty much spot on. Kelly I might consider as a back up player (as he can play full back and centre back) but we need two central defenders, a right back, a goal keeper (Pickford from Sunderland maybe) and a defensive minded midfielder.

See, we do sometimes agree - All of those players, except maybe Kelly, I'd say are surplus to requirements over several seasons.

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Hrolf The Ganger 07 May 17 1.27pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Pretty much spot on. Kelly I might consider as a back up player (as he can play full back and centre back) but we need two central defenders, a right back, a goal keeper (Pickford from Sunderland maybe) and a defensive minded midfielder. See, we do sometimes agree - All of those players, except maybe Kelly, I'd say are surplus to requirements over several seasons. We agree on quite a lot of things. There is an argument for 2 centre halfs in and 1 out. Perhaps 3 in and 2 out would be better.
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07 May 17 1.27pm

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

See, we do sometimes agree - All of those players, except maybe Kelly, I'd say are surplus to requirements over several seasons.

We agree on quite a lot of things.

There is an argument for 2 centre halfs in and 1 out. Perhaps 3 in and 2 out would be better.

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EverOptimisticEagle 07 May 17 1.48pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt If 13 players plus loanees left and we signed 6, that would leave the squad pretty threadbare. It's bad enough covering injuries now without a net reduction of 9 in overall squad size. With who I would keep/sell/release It would leave us with 19 players if you included speroni, boateng and Kai Kai. They would need to be included in the 25 due to age next year.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

If 13 players plus loanees left and we signed 6, that would leave the squad pretty threadbare. It's bad enough covering injuries now without a net reduction of 9 in overall squad size.

With who I would keep/sell/release It would leave us with 19 players if you included speroni, boateng and Kai Kai. They would need to be included in the 25 due to age next year.

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EverOptimisticEagle 07 May 17 1.54pm
Originally posted by EverOptimisticEagle With who I would keep/sell/release It would leave us with 19 players if you included speroni, boateng and Kai Kai. They would need to be included in the 25 due to age next year. It would look something like this....if I was in charge (thank goodness I am not) Attachment: IMG_0270.PNG (1,544.84Kb)
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07 May 17 1.54pm

Originally posted by EverOptimisticEagle

With who I would keep/sell/release It would leave us with 19 players if you included speroni, boateng and Kai Kai. They would need to be included in the 25 due to age next year.

It would look something like this....if I was in charge (thank goodness I am not)

Attachment: IMG_0270.PNG (1,544.84Kb)

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tonymikejoe UK 07 May 17 1.55pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I just hope that finally the chairman will realise tht you can't do things on the cheap. I'd say we need two center halfs, two strikers, another right back,goalkeeper and a midfielder. That's 7. Outs, Campbell,Chung,Fryers,Delaney,Kelly,Mandander. Parish will be choking on his champagne if he reads this. This season we splashed a staggering �30m on Benteke, whose 14 goals give us a chance of staying up. We also did �13m on an England international (Andros) and during the January window Parish spent another �30m-odd. As a club we have thrown absolutely mental money at it.
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tonymikejoe

UK 07 May 17 1.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I just hope that finally the chairman will realise tht you can't do things on the cheap.

I'd say we need two center halfs, two strikers, another right back,goalkeeper and a midfielder. That's 7.

Outs,

Campbell,Chung,Fryers,Delaney,Kelly,Mandander.

Parish will be choking on his champagne if he reads this.

This season we splashed a staggering �30m on Benteke, whose 14 goals give us a chance of staying up.

We also did �13m on an England international (Andros) and during the January window Parish spent another �30m-odd.

As a club we have thrown absolutely mental money at it.

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OhthisbloodyPC 07 May 17 2.00pm
I never realised the squad was so vast. Somewhere in those ranks there's a hiding Japanese soldier who doesn't know that World Wa II has ended. Originally posted by Stuart Shave Full Squad as it currently stands : Goalkeepers - Wayne Hennessey, Steve Mandanda, Kleton Perntreou, Julian Speroni Defenders � Luke Croll, Scott Dann, Damien Delaney, Zeki Fryers, Ryan Inniss, Martin Kelly, (Mamadou Sakho), Jeffrey Schlupp, Pape Souare, James Tomkins, Patrick van Aanholt, Joel Ward, Ben Wynter Midfielders - Hiram Boateng, Yohan Cabaye, Luke Dreher, Mathieu Flamini, Noor Husin, Sullay KaiKai, Joe Ledley, Chung-Yong Lee, James McArthur, Luka Milivojevic, Jordon Mutch, Michael Phillips, Jason Puncheon, Bakary Sako, Andros Townsend, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Jonathan Williams, Wilfried Zaha Forwards - Keshi Anderson, Kwesi Appiah, Christian Benteke, Jonathan Benteke, Fraizer Campbell, Freddie Ladapo, (Loic Remy), Connor Wickham Edited by Stuart Shave (07 May 2017 11.47am)
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07 May 17 2.00pm

I never realised the squad was so vast. Somewhere in those ranks there's a hiding Japanese soldier who doesn't know that World Wa II has ended.

Originally posted by Stuart Shave

Full Squad as it currently stands :

Goalkeepers - Wayne Hennessey, Steve Mandanda, Kleton Perntreou, Julian Speroni

Defenders � Luke Croll, Scott Dann, Damien Delaney, Zeki Fryers, Ryan Inniss, Martin Kelly, (Mamadou Sakho), Jeffrey Schlupp, Pape Souare, James Tomkins, Patrick van Aanholt, Joel Ward, Ben Wynter

Midfielders - Hiram Boateng, Yohan Cabaye, Luke Dreher, Mathieu Flamini, Noor Husin, Sullay KaiKai, Joe Ledley, Chung-Yong Lee, James McArthur, Luka Milivojevic, Jordon Mutch, Michael Phillips, Jason Puncheon, Bakary Sako, Andros Townsend, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Jonathan Williams, Wilfried Zaha

Forwards - Keshi Anderson, Kwesi Appiah, Christian Benteke, Jonathan Benteke, Fraizer Campbell, Freddie Ladapo, (Loic Remy), Connor Wickham

Edited by Stuart Shave (07 May 2017 11.47am)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 May 17 2.07pm
Originally posted by EverOptimisticEagle With who I would keep/sell/release It would leave us with 19 players if you included speroni, boateng and Kai Kai. They would need to be included in the 25 due to age next year. Neither Boateng or Kaikai are good enough Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 07 May 17 2.07pm

Originally posted by EverOptimisticEagle

With who I would keep/sell/release It would leave us with 19 players if you included speroni, boateng and Kai Kai. They would need to be included in the 25 due to age next year.

Neither Boateng or Kaikai are good enough

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 May 17 2.21pm
Originally posted by Dan89 James mcarthur been terrible now for at least a month. Name one good game his played under Sam. I mentioned that Tomkins had done well earlier on the thread. Luka without Sakho you may aswell have jedinak. I've been impressed with schlupp but PVA is average at best. Dann is not prem standard anymore. I also stated that it's unlikely that many would leave but I wouldn't be disappointed if they did. Edited by Dan89 (07 May 2017 12.57pm) 1 whole month? Yeah you're right I hadn't realised it had been such a run of poor form. Luca has just arrived in the PL, if anything he has done well to adapt as quickly as he has. A lot of top European players tak a full season to adapt. We should see the best of him next season. Interesting take on PVA v Schlupp, personally I think PVA is the better of the two but that's opinions I guess. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 07 May 17 2.21pm

Originally posted by Dan89

James mcarthur been terrible now for at least a month. Name one good game his played under Sam. I mentioned that Tomkins had done well earlier on the thread. Luka without Sakho you may aswell have jedinak. I've been impressed with schlupp but PVA is average at best. Dann is not prem standard anymore. I also stated that it's unlikely that many would leave but I wouldn't be disappointed if they did.

Edited by Dan89 (07 May 2017 12.57pm)

1 whole month? Yeah you're right I hadn't realised it had been such a run of poor form.

Luca has just arrived in the PL, if anything he has done well to adapt as quickly as he has. A lot of top European players tak a full season to adapt. We should see the best of him next season.

Interesting take on PVA v Schlupp, personally I think PVA is the better of the two but that's opinions I guess.

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ger20 London 07 May 17 2.22pm
Think we can clear out Kelly, and Delaney. Possible sign Sahko or another equally competent CB. new RB with Ward becoming a squad player, Keep Cabaye, Townsend, Benteke if possible and buy a new striker
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London 07 May 17 2.22pm

Think we can clear out Kelly, and Delaney. Possible sign Sahko or another equally competent CB. new RB with Ward becoming a squad player, Keep Cabaye, Townsend, Benteke if possible and buy a new striker

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MrCParrot Taunton 07 May 17 2.29pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Neither Boateng or Kaikai are good enough To be fairer I would say unproven at this level. I want to see them get a chance next season. Both have talent its a case of them proving it when they get a chance. Same with Lapado. If we don't give them a chance then why bother at all with young players. Parrot Mr Cadbury's Parrot says "Hello"
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Taunton 07 May 17 2.29pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Neither Boateng or Kaikai are good enough

To be fairer I would say unproven at this level. I want to see them get a chance next season. Both have talent its a case of them proving it when they get a chance. Same with Lapado. If we don't give them a chance then why bother at all with young players.

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tonymikejoe UK 07 May 17 2.36pm
Don't really see a massive overhaul occurring considering how much money has been invested into the current squad. If we kept everybody currently with us the only area I see considerable improvement possible would be: Goalkeeper; Left-footed centre-half and a Number 10 to support the centre-forward. That's it, but would cost around �40m to be potentially really effective and not come with any guarantees.
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tonymikejoe

UK 07 May 17 2.36pm

Don't really see a massive overhaul occurring considering how much money has been invested into the current squad.

If we kept everybody currently with us the only area I see considerable improvement possible would be:

Goalkeeper; Left-footed centre-half and a Number 10 to support the centre-forward.

That's it, but would cost around �40m to be potentially really effective and not come with any guarantees.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 May 17 2.37pm
Originally posted by MrCParrot To be fairer I would say unproven at this level. I want to see them get a chance next season. Both have talent its a case of them proving it when they get a chance. Same with Lapado. If we don't give them a chance then why bother at all with young players. Parrot KaiKai is 44. Pro USA & Israel
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Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 May 17 2.37pm

Originally posted by MrCParrot

Parrot

KaiKai is 44.

Pro USA & Israel

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