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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 19 May 17 12.04pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Always good to touch the green grass of home.. Anyway, what's new with you Pussycat?

You thought like i did, Tom Jones but then the male side of my brain kicked in. He was reffering to The only Gay in the Village which i thought was very clever.

 

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Originally posted by bubble wrap

You thought like i did, Tom Jones but then the male side of my brain kicked in. He was reffering to The only Gay in the Village which i thought was very clever.

I have spent many months convincing you I am not male and finally it's paying off

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 19 May 17 12.16pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

I have spent many months convincing you I am not male and finally it's paying off

Your not Non-Binary Gender by chance?

 

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Originally posted by Michaelawt85

I have spent many months convincing you I am not male and finally it's paying off

Weirdly I only have to send someone an MMS to convince them that I am male. I wonder if you have missed something in your process?

 




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whitehorselane Flag 19 May 17 3.09pm

One thing I for certain is that a lot Welsh rugby players have been sniffing around Warren Gaitland's arse to get in the Lions squad

 

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simonmdt Flag x 19 May 17 4.23pm

Originally posted by Bangell

If I can offer an overly intellectual opinion, I did make an interesting note from Randall Collins' book on the micro-sociology of violence recently:

'Despite the use of sexist epithets to insult men they do not like, the hooligans of the 1980s were ardent admirers of Margaret Thatcher and the queen—presumably because these could be used to assert English solidarity and superiority, and to put down respectable educated liberals and leftists; although in Italy they chant ‘f*** the Pope!’, at home they defend the Catholic church, out of hostility to the Anglican establishment (Buford 1993: 95). The pattern is much like that analyzed by Katz (1999) in his study of freeway road rage: curses are brought to one's lips because they fit the particular target one is confronting at the moment; they need not be based on deeply held beliefs, and the repertoire can be inconsistent and contradictory from occasion to occasion.'

I'd suggest that homophobic taunts are a similar phenomenon: those chanting mostly aren't deep-seated homophobes, but instrumentalise a background convention of homophobia, as Anthony King has argued in the case of most racist chanting.

So I don't think that most people joining in with these chants are particularly hateful; but intent is somewhat irrelevant when the effect is chanting that equates homosexuality with all sorts of negative traits. There's no room for subtlety in a crowd.

While I agree with most of what is said, I was one of the hooligans of the 80s and I and those that I ran with were most definitely not Thatcherites and hated the bitch with a passion.

Edited by simonmdt (19 May 2017 4.23pm)

 

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