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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 29 May 17 8.56am

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Just had a look at Monk's Wiki.

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He would have to be the best candidate by far. Leeds only just missed the play-offs - not bad for a new manager. He was a centre-back himself and would be knowledgeable about structuring a solid defence. His record as a manager is not too shabby at all. I would prefer him over Silva TBH. Plus you can't can't be anymore English than a Welshman.

 


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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 29 May 17 8.58am

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Originally posted by kevlee

Gary Monk would be a disaster and would make the darkest of Pardew days not seen that bad. I cannot seriously believe that people are suggesting he should be our manager. What planet are you on??

Do Leeds and Swansea fans all agree that he was a disaster? I certainly don't after looking at his form. So I too would like to hear your argument's reasons please.

 


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Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

Do Leeds and Swansea fans all agree that he was a disaster? I certainly don't after looking at his form. So I too would like to hear your argument's reasons please.

First, managing Leeds in the Championship is nothing like managing a team in the PL - agreed?
So go back to his PL record. Why was he sacked by Swansea? One win in first 11 games, after a honeymoon season. Sound familiar?
Anyway, it looks like its a done deal according to the bookies so what I think and anyone else is academic. But I cant see how this appointment is a step forward for the club.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 May 17 9.08am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

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Monk had a good first season at Swansea taking them up to 8th in the PL.
All started to go wrong for him in the next season 2015-16 when they only won 3 of the first 15 league games and Monk was shown the door.Alan Curtis was put in charge for 7 games and when Guidolin joined after 22 games, Swansea were down in 17th place.

At Leeds, Monk got them into the play-off positions but only won 2 out of their last 11 games and finished outside the play-offs in 7th place.

So at both clubs, he did well to start with before the "Wheels came off".

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 29 May 17 9.09am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by kenbarr

It takes at least two to have a meeting. Is there any evidence that Palace snubbed Silva? Other than his signing for Watford, no. Was he or agent approached by Palace? Perhaps. They may have said no because they were focused elsewhere, maybe Watford.

We Palace supporters believe in our club. Outhers looking from the outside may not. Their lack of belief, or belief that other pastures are greener, might just cause them regret in the future. Count me as one of those that feels Silva didn't have the chops to handle Palace even though he is familiar with at least Luka. Watford's record with managers is pretty poor. Let's see where they are this time next season.

A useful opinion piece about who the writer thinks are the best options out there. Me? My preference would be Jokanovic

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Originally posted by kevlee

First, managing Leeds in the Championship is nothing like managing a team in the PL - agreed?
So go back to his PL record. Why was he sacked by Swansea? One win in first 11 games, after a honeymoon season. Sound familiar?
Anyway, it looks like its a done deal according to the bookies so what I think and anyone else is academic. But I cant see how this appointment is a step forward for the club.

Bookies only reflect betting patterns.

 

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View sa_eagle's Profile sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 29 May 17 9.11am Send a Private Message to sa_eagle Add sa_eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by kevlee

First, managing Leeds in the Championship is nothing like managing a team in the PL - agreed?
So go back to his PL record. Why was he sacked by Swansea? One win in first 11 games, after a honeymoon season. Sound familiar?
Anyway, it looks like its a done deal according to the bookies so what I think and anyone else is academic. But I cant see how this appointment is a step forward for the club.

I agree with you kevlee.
As others have said Monk may well be a decent manager, but he's not a step up from what we've had, so as a statement of intent it's not an ambitious one.

 


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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 29 May 17 9.12am

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Originally posted by kevlee

First, managing Leeds in the Championship is nothing like managing a team in the PL - agreed?
So go back to his PL record. Why was he sacked by Swansea? One win in first 11 games, after a honeymoon season. Sound familiar?
Anyway, it looks like its a done deal according to the bookies so what I think and anyone else is academic. But I cant see how this appointment is a step forward for the club.

Yes, I think you have a valid point, his record shows he can suffer a string of defeats. So maybe he's not the best option as I stated. But I don't think he'd be the worst either. He has had regular EPL experience with Swansea who were a very decent side under him until his run of bad form, and they have suffered for it, almost getting relegated save for Hull being so poor. But right now, at this point in time, we are in a pickle with no manager to buy our preseason targets and get the squad ready for the next season. I honestly do not think he would do a bad job continuing on from Sam's work. With Silva gone, Jokanovich needing 5 million just to begin to buy him, and with some prize clowns waiting in the wings, I think we'd do well to get Monk. I don't think he's as bad as Pardew. But I take your point, when the teams he's managing suffer a bad spell, he appears unable to turns thing around. point taken.

 


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Originally posted by Willo

Monk had a good first season at Swansea taking them up to 8th in the PL.
All started to go wrong for him in the next season 2015-16 when they only won 3 of the first 15 league games and Monk was shown the door.Alan Curtis was put in charge for 7 games and when Guidolin joined after 22 games, Swansea were down in 17th place.

At Leeds, Monk got them into the play-off positions but only won 2 out of their last 11 games and finished outside the play-offs in 7th place.

So at both clubs, he did well to start with before the "Wheels came off".


Now that sounds familiar

 


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View sa_eagle's Profile sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 29 May 17 9.16am Send a Private Message to sa_eagle Add sa_eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It was the hull players out of their depth because of 3 dangerous players out, not forgetting their best 2 sold in January.

And do you not remember them getting the ball in our final third in the 1st half and non stop in the 2nd half until the 3rd goal? The manager can get the team in certain areas, if they're not good enough, what can he do? They were probably worth the same as Benteke to simplify it for you.

Won't stop you or others making negative opinions of potential managers or players after they've gone as possibles for whatever reason.

You and others make it sound like hull didn't bother you which we know isn't the case. Plenty were sh1tting it and lauding Silva. Were you one of them? I bet there are plenty who did and now write him off because 'Parish didn't want him' (had a holiday whilst a competitor nipped in unchanllenged and signed him up).

Once again someone is telling me what I thought and said when they're totally clueless.

At the end of the day Silva isn't an option so let's move on.

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 29 May 17 9.22am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Would welcome a younger,hopefully, long term appointment,one not on the verge of retirement or well past their sell by date.
This clearly rules out Hodgson for starters.
Shame we missed out on Silva but we move on!!

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Says the man who referred to our late manager as BFS. Why not put your own house in order before you criticize others

In light of the relevations about BFS , did he deserve any respect?

 

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