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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 May 17 7.08am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

I will wait to judge but if he looks to profit from Manchester within it, how would you feel?

I'm not sure what you mean by profit from it? Offering alternative counter terrorism strategies? Is that profiting? Or is this just a new stick to beat him with?

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm not sure what you mean by profit from it? Offering alternative counter terrorism strategies? Is that profiting? Or is this just a new stick to beat him with?

Profit=use Manchester's events to back his own policies and potentially gain votes.

He can offer counterterrorism strategies without profiting from Manchester.

I don't really know why I bother to answe you as you full well know what it means but play dumb as you don't like actually answering a question.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 May 17 7.49am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

Profit=use Manchester's events to back his own policies and potentially gain votes.

He can offer counterterrorism strategies without profiting from Manchester.

I don't really know why I bother to answe you as you full well know what it means but play dumb as you don't like actually answering a question.

Is he allowed to mention Manchester?

Edit. What Corbyn will say according to the Guardian...

our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country … Many experts, including professionals in our intelligence and security services, have pointed to the connections between wars our government has supported or fought in other countries and terrorism here at home.

But Corbyn will also say:

That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions. But an informed understanding of the causes of terrorism is an essential part of an effective response that will protect the security of our people that fights rather than fuels terrorism.

Edited by nickgusset (26 May 2017 8.00am)

 

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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 26 May 17 8.10am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is he allowed to mention Manchester?

Edit. What Corbyn will say according to the Guardian...

our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country … Many experts, including professionals in our intelligence and security services, have pointed to the connections between wars our government has supported or fought in other countries and terrorism here at home.

But Corbyn will also say:

That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions. But an informed understanding of the causes of terrorism is an essential part of an effective response that will protect the security of our people that fights rather than fuels terrorism.

Edited by nickgusset (26 May 2017 8.00am)

He's a an apologist wnaker who would send us to hell in a handcart rather than upset a Muslim.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Is he allowed to mention Manchester?

Edit. What Corbyn will say according to the Guardian...

our foreign policy reduces rather than increases the threat to this country … Many experts, including professionals in our intelligence and security services, have pointed to the connections between wars our government has supported or fought in other countries and terrorism here at home.

But Corbyn will also say:

That assessment in no way reduces the guilt of those who attack our children. Those terrorists will forever be reviled and held to account for their actions. But an informed understanding of the causes of terrorism is an essential part of an effective response that will protect the security of our people that fights rather than fuels terrorism.

Edited by nickgusset (26 May 2017 8.00am)

I don't disagree in principle with what he's saying. Though it is ironic that those supporting him were the same that voted blairs labour in who took us to war.

However, what I do disagree with is the timing of it. On Monday, he was on the social care attack. Now all of a sudden he's focusing on terroism. Wonder why? Blatant disrespectful profiteering

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 May 17 9.00am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

I don't disagree in principle with what he's saying. Though it is ironic that those supporting him were the same that voted blairs labour in who took us to war.

However, what I do disagree with is the timing of it. On Monday, he was on the social care attack. Now all of a sudden he's focusing on terroism. Wonder why? Blatant disrespectful profiteering

Are you going to complain to the BBC about last night's question time Manchester aftermath special?

 

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legaleagle Flag 26 May 17 9.39am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle


However, what I do disagree with is the timing of it. On Monday, he was on the social care attack. Now all of a sudden he's focusing on terroism. Wonder why? Blatant disrespectful profiteering

And the Tories won't be playing it as an issue for all its worth between now and 8 June?


 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 May 17 9.50am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

I don't disagree in principle with what he's saying. Though it is ironic that those supporting him were the same that voted blairs labour in who took us to war.

However, what I do disagree with is the timing of it. On Monday, he was on the social care attack. Now all of a sudden he's focusing on terroism. Wonder why? Blatant disrespectful profiteering

I think most of those are the labour supporters and members inc MPs who forced a vote of no confidence, and resigned from the cabinet etc.

Outside of the Labour party its maybe easy to mistake the Labour Party as being a single whole, but its really three different factions. The Blairite / New Labour, Trade Unionists / The Left and centre left members.

 


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Originally posted by legaleagle

And the Tories won't be playing it as an issue for all its worth between now and 8 June?


I'm not a Tory but if they do then I condemn it too. Main point I have made on this thread is that using Manchester as a chance to political point score is pathetic and disrespectful. Nicks doing it as is his esteemed leade.

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 26 May 17 3.59pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Who is to blame for this massacre?

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People. That's who. f***ed up people.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 May 17 4.16pm

Originally posted by dannyh

He's a an apologist wnaker who would send us to hell in a handcart rather than upset a Muslim.

Maybe, but I hear that May will privatise the handcart and well all have to pay.

None of them have our best interests at heart, and never have.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 May 17 4.18pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Who is to blame for this massacre?

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People. That's who. f***ed up people.

Pretty much.

 


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