It may sound ironic now, but when the "joniesta" nickname was first given it wasn't entirely bestowed ironically. That's not to say that we thought we had another Iniesta on our hands, but it was a term used affectionately for a player, who, when he made it into the 1st team, he did look a very promising and talented midfielder.

Sadly he has proved very fragile, but I still think he is a good Championship player.

He hasnt really been given a chance when fit at this level. I would give him a go and if no good then sell him on in the January window.

It'd be a waste of a place in the 25. He's not as good as he was expected to be and has spent his career on the treatment table. Football's not his sport.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Behave. It wouldn't matter if Joniesta was 6ft and 13 stone, size isn't the problem.

Look at the games Wilf had back in the championship when, even playing out wide, he took control of game and tore teams apart. Williams has never done anything like that for us at any level.

He's energetic, but his passes rarely go forward or offer any kind of penetration and he spends most of his time running sideways. He doesn't seem particularly composed on the ball either. From what I've seen he just doesn't look like a Premier league player.

Even in the Euros, his main contribution seemed to run around with the ball hoping someone would foul him. He doesn't really seem to have the instinct for a killer pass, or an eye for goal.

Could he still be a decent player? Of course, probably not for us though and most likely in the Championship after a few more seasons down there.

Premier League number 10 for next year? No way.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

Spends most of the game going round in circles, doesn't score goals since he moved to CM and gives away a lot of free-kicks around the box.

Would love to see him get a run out in some friendlies, he is palace through and through, whether he can hack it in the premier league is yet to be established, would like to think he could earn a place on the bench maybe.