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Can We only Survive in the prem - playing one way

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View CPFC/SCCC's Profile CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 10 Jun 17 7.29am Send a Private Message to CPFC/SCCC Add CPFC/SCCC as a friend

Whilst survival is key, for us to develop the ground and develop as a premier league side. Can we only survive in this league but playing counter attack football and low possession. We now 7th favourite to get relegated next season. I remember Parish mentioned about getting to what Everton are to relegated odds. With Everton, relegation isn't even in the question.

Has Pardew stint in charge, made you wary about changing the way we play.

 


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View essetwentyone's Profile essetwentyone Flag london 10 Jun 17 7.55am Send a Private Message to essetwentyone Add essetwentyone as a friend

I've always been wary of it because I always remember what it did to the clowns. To change style you must have the players in every position but that takes a long time with current player values.
We have stayed up so far by using the counter attack system which has worked because of the quality of our wingers. Until we have similar quality ALL OVER the pitch we can't be successful with a more expansive style.
What we do have to do is devise a better plan B to use against teams who come to Selhurst to defend and hit us on the counter.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 10 Jun 17 8.00am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

For the foreseeable future we need to play to our strengths and make best use of the players we have. To play high-possession, passing football we'd need to massively improve our personnel, which we will do in time, IF we stay in the PL. Yes, we should have leaned from the Pardew experiment; evolution not revolution (Tony Hayers).

 


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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 10 Jun 17 8.16am Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Agree with Dave

 

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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 10 Jun 17 9.27am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

For the foreseeable future we need to play to our strengths and make best use of the players we have. To play high-possession, passing football we'd need to massively improve our personnel, which we will do in time, IF we stay in the PL. Yes, we should have leaned from the Pardew experiment; evolution not revolution (Tony Hayers).

This , and this is what a good manager will do.

Pardew seemed to wake up one day and decide to change the playing style of a team that had won about twice since christmas because he had no idea what to do.
Even if the side were in form and had confidence it was never going to work as we did not have enough quality players.
The longer we stay in the Prem the better chance we have of attracting the quality of players to play the expansive football. Evolution as said above.
Me , I would be quite happy to finish top ten playing the style Pulis and Sam sensibly made us play, never found it boring.

 

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View aquickgame2's Profile aquickgame2 Flag Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 10 Jun 17 10.52am Send a Private Message to aquickgame2 Add aquickgame2 as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

This , and this is what a good manager will do.

Pardew seemed to wake up one day and decide to change the playing style of a team that had won about twice since christmas because he had no idea what to do.
Even if the side were in form and had confidence it was never going to work as we did not have enough quality players.
The longer we stay in the Prem the better chance we have of attracting the quality of players to play the expansive football. Evolution as said above.
Me , I would be quite happy to finish top ten playing the style Pulis and Sam sensibly made us play, never found it boring.

Thats cos you was always pished

 

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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 10 Jun 17 11.41am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Hostorically (from when I started watching around 88-89) some of our most entertaining and exciting teams and have a had exceptional wingbacks and wide men who attack quickly and get balls into the box. Hitting teams on the break sets the atmosphere on fire and I love it. No problem with us continuing like that if these are the strengths of our team.

 

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View Croydon Sunset's Profile Croydon Sunset Flag London 10 Jun 17 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Croydon Sunset Add Croydon Sunset as a friend

Tight at the back, soak up pressure, creativity with a bit of steel in midfield, pace and trickery on the wings and a big CF to bang em in (think v Liverpool or Arsenal) and what's not to love?

Don't go changing!

 

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View CrazyLegs's Profile CrazyLegs Flag 10 Jun 17 4.34pm Send a Private Message to CrazyLegs Add CrazyLegs as a friend

I'd rather see us defend solidly and counter than play "you have it" for ages before hoofing a long ball forward.


...to give Pardew his due though, he got Wilf back on track whilst he was in charge. He looks so much more in control of himself. Focused & Dangerous. So happy he's signed up

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 10 Jun 17 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Yrs play to your strengths but we could be far far stronger than we are in possession (or were under Pardew) with just a few additions and alterations. Being able to come back against a packed defence is something we don't know how to do.

 


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Brinscall Eagle Flag Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 10 Jun 17 9.05pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Yrs play to your strengths but we could be far far stronger than we are in possession (or were under Pardew) with just a few additions and alterations. Being able to come back against a packed defence is something we don't know how to do.

Probably true although
Pardew failed spectacularly I guess he was trying to change things to be able to overcome the packed defence issue. Maybe a few changes in personnel and a more expansive thinking manager can achieve this with us. If not let us go with the Ginger One who will ensure we rake a step forward to Premiership stability.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 10 Jun 17 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Attack in numbers and defend in numbers. That's it. Simple.

But you need to have the players with the intelligence, speed, fitness and ability to do it. It's the footballing Holy Grail but every club should aspire to it.

We are half way there. Which is possibly as good as it will get with this squad.

 


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