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  Hrolf The Ganger  13 Jun 17 5.05pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yep. How much do you think care homes cost compared to an inhaler and shots of insulin? Every person I've known, as they get old, requires more and more health care intervention. And those who lead an exceptionally healthy life, will tend to get the long term degenerative decent into death. The importance here is how groups deviate from the normal. The average person costs less than a smoker and a drinker, but they also cost less than people who are very health conscious. However, only the smoking drinking fat guy is likely to pay any tax for their lifestyle choices. The average person doesn't really take much care of themselves. Its those who deliberate engage in activities that statistically increase your life expectancy that are getting a free ride. They pay a lot for allegedly healthy food and gym memberships. That has to count for something.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Jun 17 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Ah! The source of your entire personality.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Jun 17 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I wouldn't know where to get them. That's because of loss of faculties in later life Hrolf. Those of us that are ace with the interweb can find this: More than two-fifths of national health spending in the UK is devoted to people over 65, according to estimates produced for the Guardian by the Nuffield Trust – a figure that is only likely to increase with the nation’s ageing demographic. The data shows that an 85-year-old man costs the NHS about seven times more on average than a man in his late 30s. Health spending per person steeply increases after the age of 50, with people aged 85 and over costing the NHS an average of £7,000 a year. Spending on health services across all age groups is £2,069, according to Treasury analysis.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Jun 17 5.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Ah! The source of your entire personality. Face facts. You've been completely owned on the Labour are falling apart lines you came up with. Your showing colours with I only want British babies born here and your insults are getting s***er by the hour. If you want to say my personality is as vast and interesting as the entire internet, I've no complaints.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Jun 17 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
They pay a lot for allegedly healthy food and gym memberships. That has to count for something. I pay for food, beer and cigs, but there is definitely a tax on cigs and beer. Its not what they pay its how much tax they pay. 7.50 for a pack of 20 Pall Mall. Almost all of that is tax. I tell you, if smokers decided to quit, we'd all be f**ked on taxes.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Jun 17 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That's because of loss of faculties in later life Hrolf. Those of us that are ace with the interweb can find this: More than two-fifths of national health spending in the UK is devoted to people over 65, according to estimates produced for the Guardian by the Nuffield Trust – a figure that is only likely to increase with the nation’s ageing demographic. The data shows that an 85-year-old man costs the NHS about seven times more on average than a man in his late 30s. Health spending per person steeply increases after the age of 50, with people aged 85 and over costing the NHS an average of £7,000 a year. Spending on health services across all age groups is £2,069, according to Treasury analysis. You don't want to challenge me do you Maple? Thanks for for the data all the same.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Jun 17 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I pay for food, beer and cigs, but there is definitely a tax on cigs and beer. Its not what they pay its how much tax they pay. 7.50 for a pack of 20 Pall Mall. Almost all of that is tax. I tell you, if smokers decided to quit, we'd all be f**ked on taxes. Your choice.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Jun 17 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Face facts. You've been completely owned on the Labour are falling apart lines you came up with. Your showing colours with I only want British babies born here and your insults are getting s***er by the hour. If you want to say my personality is as vast and interesting as the entire internet, I've no complaints. Yawn. You are enjoying a brief bounce because you managed to mug enough teenagers into voting for 'hope'.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Jun 17 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You don't want to challenge me do you Maple? Thanks for for the data all the same. Nah, I too am in later life and ... Forgotten my point now, must go and wee.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Jun 17 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Nah, I too am in later life and ... Forgotten my point now, must go and wee. Ha.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Jun 17 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Your choice. Your choice to go to the gym and work out. Remember I said I believe smokers and drinkers should be taxed accordingly.
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grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 13 Jun 17 6.22pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That's because of loss of faculties in later life Hrolf. Those of us that are ace with the interweb can find this: More than two-fifths of national health spending in the UK is devoted to people over 65, according to estimates produced for the Guardian by the Nuffield Trust – a figure that is only likely to increase with the nation’s ageing demographic. The data shows that an 85-year-old man costs the NHS about seven times more on average than a man in his late 30s. Health spending per person steeply increases after the age of 50, with people aged 85 and over costing the NHS an average of £7,000 a year. Spending on health services across all age groups is £2,069, according to Treasury analysis.
You would expect children and older people to cost the most because of the care required. The NHS over pays for everything I was talking with a doctor and few nurses about this it really annoys them that even something like toilet paper it's cheaper to go to tesco and buy it then what nhs pays yet they can't do that the same with other supplys. I do not know how people can depend drinkers/smokers claiming they pay more in so on again go and look at what it costs to treat them it's way more then they ever pay in plus the medical problems they have drag on for a long time so a lot of those stats which are about older people i bet is because they are drinker/smokers Edited by grumpymort (13 Jun 2017 6.24pm)
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