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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 7.25pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Username

If you're going to do it properly then no. In theory a Director of Football is like the General Manager in American sports. Part of that job is not just signing players but also hiring managers/head coaches.

We don't have one because we've recently favoured managers who want to do everything like Pardew and Allardyce. If we were going to bring in a DOF that would need to happen before the manager was confirmed. Otherwise you're hiring a manager and then instantly complicating things by adding in someone above him.

That's how it works at Southampton I believe, Reed has a huge role in finding the new manager to ensure their system and ethos is the same.

For what it's worth, I don't think there is a definite right or wrong way to run a club. If you're going to have a DOF though you have to really want that structure, and I'm not sure it suits Parish or the managers he seems to like.

Yes this is right.
He keeps detailed information about managers.
Southampton also have a very good scouting infrastructure, availing of the necessary technology and Les Reed overseas this area as well.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 18 Jun 17 6.29am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1


I think the average management stay is now 14 months.
Chelsea have continued to be successful with many Manager changes.

Surely Chelsea are successful by throwing money at the problem and just buying success at any price.

The other salient point that I think you made last week was that having a director of football was one of the reasons that Koeman left and joined Everton

 

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View iheartcpfc's Profile iheartcpfc Flag SE25 18 Jun 17 6.56pm Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

If we could get a good one well versed in foreign markets (maybe even Alaves' one if Pellegrino comes if possible) then I think it would be a good move. Steve Walsh at Leicester showed their value (ok he was a chief scout but had a lot of sway over transfers and at Everton seems to be doing good business as a DoF).

Edited by iheartcpfc (18 Jun 2017 6.59pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Jun 17 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Surely Chelsea are successful by throwing money at the problem and just buying success at any price.

The other salient point that I think you made last week was that having a director of football was one of the reasons that Koeman left and joined Everton

Koeman had a DOF at Southampton in the shape of 'Les Reed'. At Everton, Steve Walsh was appointed a DOF a month after Koeman arrived at the club.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 19 Jun 17 5.50am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

I'd say that it would be an excellent investment and might help to put an end to all the prevarication that goes on with recruitment. What we need is someone with good contacts whose happy to let the manager do his job and Parish to look after the money, the infrastructure, the PR, etc. We might also be able to keep a manager for more than a season as well if there's someone to act as a buffer between him and the owners.

Good post

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 27 Jun 17 10.28am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Dennis Bergkamp as Dof please

 


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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 27 Jun 17 10.50am Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

I think as a club we do just fine without a DoF.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 27 Jun 17 11.08am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Dennis Bergkamp as Dof please

What experience does he have of the role?

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 27 Jun 17 11.16am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

What experience does he have of the role?

Sorry I thought he was Ajax dof , but it actually Marc overmars. I think we got to move with the times. Dof can be affective.

 


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View balfmalark's Profile balfmalark Flag 27 Jun 17 11.22am Send a Private Message to balfmalark Add balfmalark as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Sorry I thought he was Ajax dof , but it actually Marc overmars. I think we got to move with the times. Dof can be affective.

This is right, Overmars is the DoF at Ajax. Bergkamp is the assistant manager

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 27 Jun 17 11.27am Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

I think as a club we do just fine without a DoF.

Agreed.
I've never been sure what a DOF is meant to do.?
We are doing just fine,Parish,Frank,Little Sam plus all the other background staff.
Just need to win another 4 more Football Matches next season,more than this season and we will be comfortably in the Top 10.
Mind you that's the hard bit.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 27 Jun 17 11.51am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Just need to win another 4 more Football Matches next season,more than this season and we will be comfortably in the Top 10.
Mind you that's the hard bit.

Preferably against the teams lurking at or near the bottom as it's losing to Swansea and Burnley that causes us problems.

It's all well and good beating Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool but if we are gifting points to relegation rivals at the same time we are just creating problems for ourselves

 

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