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Isley46 Sanderstead 12 Jul 17 11.44am
I think it will take away talking points and 'in the moment' atmosphere. My missus for one will miss standing on her seat for 10 minutes or so each game shouting 'you don't know what you're doing, you don't know what you're doing' Originally posted by We are goin up! Have watched a couple of games in the Confederations Cup where they've been trialling the new VARs. It is absolutely shocking. I know there are teething problems etc but it's going to turn into a farce unless they fix it. The main problem is that a team will now appeal anything when they've conceded a goal. They'll berate the referee and tell him to check upstairs because of some cooked up reason it shouldn't be a goal. It takes away from that moment as a fan where it's pure happiness that your team has scored a goal, you have to wait to find out. I've always thought this a bit of a problem with the review system in cricket, that moment we all watch sport for is the sudden adrenaline rush you get when your team scores/takes a wicket. Now every decision is going to be question and it's going to lead to a massive sanitisation of the game. Plus, isn't the controversy part of what we love about football?
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Sanderstead 12 Jul 17 11.44am

I think it will take away talking points and 'in the moment' atmosphere.

My missus for one will miss standing on her seat for 10 minutes or so each game shouting 'you don't know what you're doing, you don't know what you're doing'

Originally posted by We are goin up!

Have watched a couple of games in the Confederations Cup where they've been trialling the new VARs. It is absolutely shocking. I know there are teething problems etc but it's going to turn into a farce unless they fix it.

The main problem is that a team will now appeal anything when they've conceded a goal. They'll berate the referee and tell him to check upstairs because of some cooked up reason it shouldn't be a goal. It takes away from that moment as a fan where it's pure happiness that your team has scored a goal, you have to wait to find out. I've always thought this a bit of a problem with the review system in cricket, that moment we all watch sport for is the sudden adrenaline rush you get when your team scores/takes a wicket. Now every decision is going to be question and it's going to lead to a massive sanitisation of the game. Plus, isn't the controversy part of what we love about football?

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Username Horsham 12 Jul 17 1.37pm
Originally posted by kenbarr In the Confed Cup, the only thing that was proven was, "Opinions are like toucises, everybody has one. Add in the incessant barracking from pundits and you get a shambles. Goal line technology is definite, either it is or it isn't. Whether a foul requires further discipline and what level it should be is subjective. In the Germany - Chile match I'm sure that before kick off the officials were told to be absolutely sure before sending a player off. I'm not surprised that the ref showed yellow instead of red, it happens all the time. If the primary purpose of VAR is to remove controversy from officiating decisions then they might as well call in Mr. Phelps and his Impossible Missions force. People use rugby and cricket as examples, even the NFL, none of these sports get things 100% correct even with VAR. I can think of high profile examples from each sport where the incorrect decision was made after consulting VAR. The foul play issue is difficult, I think for now that should be dropped, maybe it can be looked at again in future once the rest of the system is working. In rugby, they definitely haven't got that 100% correct. Focus should be on things like checking close offsides/handballs, whether someone was the last man etc. Things that are either there or not. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 12 Jul 17 1.37pm

Originally posted by kenbarr

In the Confed Cup, the only thing that was proven was, "Opinions are like toucises, everybody has one. Add in the incessant barracking from pundits and you get a shambles. Goal line technology is definite, either it is or it isn't. Whether a foul requires further discipline and what level it should be is subjective. In the Germany - Chile match I'm sure that before kick off the officials were told to be absolutely sure before sending a player off. I'm not surprised that the ref showed yellow instead of red, it happens all the time. If the primary purpose of VAR is to remove controversy from officiating decisions then they might as well call in Mr. Phelps and his Impossible Missions force.

People use rugby and cricket as examples, even the NFL, none of these sports get things 100% correct even with VAR. I can think of high profile examples from each sport where the incorrect decision was made after consulting VAR.

The foul play issue is difficult, I think for now that should be dropped, maybe it can be looked at again in future once the rest of the system is working. In rugby, they definitely haven't got that 100% correct.

Focus should be on things like checking close offsides/handballs, whether someone was the last man etc. Things that are either there or not.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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twist Miami, Florida 12 Jul 17 6.56pm
Get Pierliugi Collina sitting in a room somewhere with feeds from all the games and he has the last say on whether its a foul/penalty/goal/sending off. Then we can enjoy the game knowing we are going to get the right decision.
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Miami, Florida 12 Jul 17 6.56pm

Get Pierliugi Collina sitting in a room somewhere with feeds from all the games and he has the last say on whether its a foul/penalty/goal/sending off.
Then we can enjoy the game knowing we are going to get the right decision.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jul 17 7.35pm
Originally posted by twist Get Pierliugi Collina sitting in a room somewhere with feeds from all the games and he has the last say on whether its a foul/penalty/goal/sending off. Then we can enjoy the game knowing we are going to get the right decision. He already does this, as do quite a few retired refs from all over the world. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jul 17 7.35pm

Originally posted by twist

He already does this, as do quite a few retired refs from all over the world.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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