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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 04 Jul 17 10.32am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

None of Kai Kai, Williams or Boateng are good enough. All it takes is too look at how average they have been on loan to league 1 sides and you can see why they've never got their chance in the PL. You have to be good enough to earn it.

I believe that Championship and League One are more physical than the PL. A Palace player loaned to one of those clubs is not available to play for Palace and can be a target for physical challenges - making him look ordinary.

I agree with Leecpfc with the qualification that our young players need to be available for cup and league matches.

 

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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 04 Jul 17 11.21am Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by Leecpfc

I'd play the youth in every cup game because it's VERY unlikely we're ever going to win it anyway and would keep our first team squad fresher for the league. I'd also play the majority of them in the league as soon as we're safe from relegation.

We're never going to win the league, so why give up on winning cups?

Very unlikely? We were pretty close 14 months ago.

 


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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 04 Jul 17 12.00pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by Username

We're never going to win the league, so why give up on winning cups?

Very unlikely? We were pretty close 14 months ago.

Agreed, Franks brief is to get to 40 points ASAP,and try to Win one or both Cups.
Selecting strong teams along the way.

 


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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 04 Jul 17 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

I think that FdB will have his hands full for the foreseeable future just getting to grips with the senior squad.
Deciding who to recommend for transfers in and out to eventually line up his his squad of 25 for the coming season.

As for Palace's Academy I believe its a romantic notion that FdB will be able to devote any time towards this in the near future.

Its a long held dream that Palace want to attract and sign better talent to the academy but Nya Kirby seems to be the only recent proof of this.

I do hope its an area that Palace can really develop, find the new premises that they need for it grow to a Category 1 Academy and really compete with the established clubs to produce top home grown talent!

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 04 Jul 17 3.34pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

It is possible that with the appointment of FDB it could be an attraction for young talent to join given his track record elsewhere. In any event it will take time, which is generally a luxury not afforded to anyone in this day and age.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 04 Jul 17 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

It is possible that with the appointment of FDB it could be an attraction for young talent to join given his track record elsewhere. In any event it will take time, which is generally a luxury not afforded to anyone in this day and age.

I'm not so sure. Have we sacked anyone apart from those that looked to be leading us into relegation?

 

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Flash Flag Lampeter 04 Jul 17 8.54pm

To me there are those from the development squad who've had their chances and those that haven't. Time to move the former on and give the latter an opportunity to shine. Kirby & Flanaghan could be ready to step up to the plate and make names for themselves, save us millions and/or potentially make us millions
Coming back to the original question - the academy could be a goldmine if managed well ... and FdB probably has more experience of this than ANYBODY ELSE.
Superb appointment.

 

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View adrian b's Profile adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 05 Jul 17 9.44am Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

There's a lot of talk that , FDB appointment is great news for the academy products. However are the likes of Kai Kai good enough or is that there not being given an opportunity. While previous managers have joined the club, with survival as their only mission. These players have hardly flourished in the U23 game or when out on loan in the football league. Im all for giving youth a chance but they have to be good enough. Didn't the academy get graded as category B. How can we improve this. Is Gary Issot the problem.

What's your thoughts on the academy and why has it been 7 to 8 years. Since Zaha burst onto he scene.

Edited by Dan89 (27 Jun 2017 11.26am)

Not done well when out on loan? I've seen Joniesta at Ipswich, a boy at Shrewsbury, another with Hartlepool. They are heroes there. They, like Kai May not be good enough for the EPL, that's all

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 05 Jul 17 10.13am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by adrian b

Not done well when out on loan? I've seen Joniesta at Ipswich, a boy at Shrewsbury, another with Hartlepool. They are heroes there. They, like Kai May not be good enough for the EPL, that's all

They must have made a real impression if you can't remember who they were. Ladapo was at Shrewsbury and Jake Gray was at Hartlepool who liked him so much we off-loaded him on a free to Luton, who've moved him on to Yeovil. Williams only managed eight appearances for Ipswich last season before suffering the inevitable injury. If you're right, the Tractor Boys have some rather odd "heroes".

 


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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 09 Jul 17 8.26am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

He's already mentioned about Luke dreher, hasn't enough muscle to be a premier player yet. Q.Should we loan our academy product abroad, in holland or Germany for a better footballing education?

 


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View Dan1994's Profile Dan1994 Flag Wallington 09 Jul 17 9.21am Send a Private Message to Dan1994 Add Dan1994 as a friend

We came bottom of the U23 table in the lowest division, and we came 3rd in the equivalent U18 division.

I understand that the best of the U23 bunch will be loaned out, but I imagine it's the same for other clubs in the division. If we had such great kids, they wouldn't have come bottom.

Historical we've produced good teams - won the FA Youth Cup twice and getting to the final another two times. Unfortunately, the fact is, our academy has been neglected for years, which is a massive shame given the catchment and relatively less competition we've got.

 


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GladAllOver27 Flag 13 Jul 17 4.22pm

Concern that frank said he wants to see what's in his own kitchen, his arrival hasn't suddenly turned our academy product into prem players.

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