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Stirlingsays 05 Jul 17 12.20am
Originally posted by Kermit8 And from near the front and from the middle and toward the back and at the sides. That's what happens when 5,000 people are crammed into an already full pen meant for 3,000 with the last couple of thousand entering simultaneously within 90 seconds of each other. Sad thing was of course, which Duckenfield could see, was that the two side pens were half empty when the gate was opened but no-one had put stewards or police at the entrance to the middle one to divert them. Fair enough comment. Sounds like someone whose's been assigned to...what is essentially a health and safety job who wasn't qualified for it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

05 Jul 17 12.20am

Originally posted by Kermit8

And from near the front and from the middle and toward the back and at the sides. That's what happens when 5,000 people are crammed into an already full pen meant for 3,000 with the last couple of thousand entering simultaneously within 90 seconds of each other.

Sad thing was of course, which Duckenfield could see, was that the two side pens were half empty when the gate was opened but no-one had put stewards or police at the entrance to the middle one to divert them.

Fair enough comment.

Sounds like someone whose's been assigned to...what is essentially a health and safety job who wasn't qualified for it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 05 Jul 17 12.32am
Originally posted by nickgusset If our courts are so s***e why are we insisting on jettisoning the failsafe of European courts to keep them in check. We want British judges handing out British sentences even though they were anti British when they sided with Gina Miller. This is a different question so that's wholly irrelevant. I disagree upon principle that foreigners should have the right to rule over British subject/citizens in legal matters.....Much in the same way that the Americans object to being told what to do by foreigners. I agree that the UK may take part in projects where we are subject to shared agreement but these should be in specific areas to an agreed level..not a forced one....For example...security and defence. You bringing up Gina Miller is also an incredibly weak point. I find Gina Miller annoying and pedantic but I don't know of anyone who refused to recognize that parliament had a right to vote upon the referendum.....Even though parliament had voted to have the referendum in the first place....which you would have thought...and most agreed meant that they would abide to its result....Otherwise what was the point of it. Gina Miller is annoying and pedantic, who had the sum result of being a time waster...all for probably just wanting her bit of time in the limelight rather than some big play about standing for parliamentary democracy......which she appeared not to care about before when parliament couldn't refuse any EU law. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2017 12.36am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Jul 17 12.32am

Originally posted by nickgusset

If our courts are so s***e why are we insisting on jettisoning the failsafe of European courts to keep them in check.

We want British judges handing out British sentences even though they were anti British when they sided with Gina Miller.

This is a different question so that's wholly irrelevant.

I disagree upon principle that foreigners should have the right to rule over British subject/citizens in legal matters.....Much in the same way that the Americans object to being told what to do by foreigners.

I agree that the UK may take part in projects where we are subject to shared agreement but these should be in specific areas to an agreed level..not a forced one....For example...security and defence.

You bringing up Gina Miller is also an incredibly weak point. I find Gina Miller annoying and pedantic but I don't know of anyone who refused to recognize that parliament had a right to vote upon the referendum.....Even though parliament had voted to have the referendum in the first place....which you would have thought...and most agreed meant that they would abide to its result....Otherwise what was the point of it.

Gina Miller is annoying and pedantic, who had the sum result of being a time waster...all for probably just wanting her bit of time in the limelight rather than some big play about standing for parliamentary democracy......which she appeared not to care about before when parliament couldn't refuse any EU law.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2017 12.36am)

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