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Stirlingsays 02 Jul 17 4.40am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Er..ok..bless you too. Though I don't quite get what you two are on about. The OP is obviously talking about fire safety re: cladding on top of wood. So was I. Well, I'm no expert on these matters but I would have thought that If there were a significant fire the wood is still going to burn. Putting cladding 'on top of wood' can only do so much. A structure is only as strong as its weakest link. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jul 2017 5.04am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Jul 17 4.40am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Er..ok..bless you too. Though I don't quite get what you two are on about. The OP is obviously talking about fire safety re: cladding on top of wood. So was I.

Well, I'm no expert on these matters but I would have thought that If there were a significant fire the wood is still going to burn. Putting cladding 'on top of wood' can only do so much.

A structure is only as strong as its weakest link.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jul 2017 5.04am)

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legaleagle 02 Jul 17 11.21am
Originally posted by YT Thanks but this doesn't really answer the question. Kerms described the Grenfell cladding as "cheap aluminium stuff". Your link to the Independent merely shows that a batch of it cost less than a batch of some alternative. I'm just trying to understand what was meant by the adjective "cheap" in this example. A top of the range Mercedes costs a lot less than a top of the range Ferrari, but I wouldn't describe a Mercedes as "cheap". It seems the cladding used cost £22 per square metre -The fire-resistant version would have been £24 per square metre.So, c. 8.5% cheaper. In terms of what the overall difference in cost would be re the main stand,sorry no idea. Edited by legaleagle (02 Jul 2017 11.22am)
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02 Jul 17 11.21am

Originally posted by YT

Thanks but this doesn't really answer the question. Kerms described the Grenfell cladding as "cheap aluminium stuff". Your link to the Independent merely shows that a batch of it cost less than a batch of some alternative. I'm just trying to understand what was meant by the adjective "cheap" in this example. A top of the range Mercedes costs a lot less than a top of the range Ferrari, but I wouldn't describe a Mercedes as "cheap".

It seems the cladding used cost £22 per square metre -The fire-resistant version would have been £24 per square metre.So, c. 8.5% cheaper.

In terms of what the overall difference in cost would be re the main stand,sorry no idea.

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Lyons550 Shirley 02 Jul 17 5.42pm
Originally posted by bexleydave We'll just have to pay them the asking price then, won't we? They're under no obligation to do us any favours. You say thay...but im sure we could use it as some sort of leverage...saying we want to push though but the nasty National Chain are asking way iver the odds (which i agree is their perogative)...negative press around this could be very persuasive in at least negotiating them down The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 02 Jul 17 5.42pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

We'll just have to pay them the asking price then, won't we? They're under no obligation to do us any favours.

You say thay...but im sure we could use it as some sort of leverage...saying we want to push though but the nasty National Chain are asking way iver the odds (which i agree is their perogative)...negative press around this could be very persuasive in at least negotiating them down

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YT Oxford 02 Jul 17 6.08pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Would it help, and make you less confused, if I edited it with the comparative instead? I'm not confused, but yes - "cheaper" would make more sense, especially as another poster has now enlightened us that the unit price between the zinc and aluminium alternatives isn't particularly great. But I suspect you used "cheap" with critical intent. Anyway, I'm certainly - like you - confused by the subsequent timber-related "teasing" of your post. I've no idea what those posters were on about either!! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 02 Jul 17 6.08pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Would it help, and make you less confused, if I edited it with the comparative instead?

I'm not confused, but yes - "cheaper" would make more sense, especially as another poster has now enlightened us that the unit price between the zinc and aluminium alternatives isn't particularly great. But I suspect you used "cheap" with critical intent.

Anyway, I'm certainly - like you - confused by the subsequent timber-related "teasing" of your post. I've no idea what those posters were on about either!!

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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Jul 17 6.59pm
Originally posted by YT I'm not confused, but yes - "cheaper" would make more sense, especially as another poster has now enlightened us that the unit price between the zinc and aluminium alternatives isn't particularly great. But I suspect you used "cheap" with critical intent. Anyway, I'm certainly - like you - confused by the subsequent timber-related "teasing" of your post. I've no idea what those posters were on about either!! 80 deaths because of it does kind of give the green light to put it under a bit of scrutiny. As for the price - it was the cheap(er) alternative of two but still what a rip off, eh? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 02 Jul 17 6.59pm

Originally posted by YT

Anyway, I'm certainly - like you - confused by the subsequent timber-related "teasing" of your post. I've no idea what those posters were on about either!!

80 deaths because of it does kind of give the green light to put it under a bit of scrutiny. As for the price - it was the cheap(er) alternative of two but still what a rip off, eh?

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