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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 09 Nov 17 6.10am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

Been listening to Talksport all morning, and there was an interesting comment made by Paul Merson this morning about Wilshere.

It's that, Arsenal, England and Bournemouth last year don't know how they should play Wilshere. They have him as a midfielder creating the play from the middle of park. What that does is expose him when his side doesn't have the ball, and he has to become a ball-winning midfielder. He goes into those challenges to win the ball back with too much energy and gets it wrong. He may win the ball at times, but it exposes his lack of tackling knowledge and there leaves his body open to injury (and he hasn't got the biggest of builds to start with).

Basically, give him a free role around the park and let him do what he does best and create play, without too much responsibility for ball-winning.

In a deeper laying role, he could often be the last midfielder before the defence. Take that responsibility away from him.

I don't think he meant, don't get any not to tackle at all but just not in areas where it's the most important thing.

Keeping him out of critical tackles areas could solve the issue of his fitness.


Really interesting comment. Hodgson knows how to use Wilshire in just this role

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Nov 17 10.35am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Undoubted ability, but I prefer RLC and I think we would get the best out of Wilshere by playing him in the same position as RLC. If he is a possible replacement for Cabaye then I would be worried he doesn't have the bite or the fitness necessary for the role that he serves. As others have said as well, a perennial sicknote, so on balance I don't think he would be a great signing.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Nov 17 2.41pm

Might as well sign Darren Anderton.

 


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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 09 Nov 17 7.37pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Article in the telegraph today

Wilshere set to be offered escape with crystal palace
By Matt Law
Roy Hodgson, the Crystal Palace manager, wants to do Gareth Southgate a major favour by signing Jack Wilshere in January.
Wilshere fears he will have to leave Arsenal if he is to go to next summer’s World Cup after being ignored for the Germany and Brazil friendlies. Southgate insisted the Arsenal midfielder must play in the Premier League to be considered and stuck to his guns even after Jordan Henderson, Dele Alli and Harry Winks withdrew.
West Bromwich Albion’s Jake Livermore and then Burnley’s Jack Cork were called up as deputies ahead of Wilshere who is yet to start a league game this season. With his contract due to expire in the summer, the 25-year-old is already attracting the interest of a number of clubs including West Ham, Swansea City and Real Betis.
But is believed to be Hodgson, the former England manager, who is particularly keen to be reunited with Wilshere, having made the player a key member of his own national squad.
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Southgate’s biggest problem as he prepares for the World Cup is the centre of his midfield and Wilshere would be an asset if he is performing regularly in the top flight.
Meanwhile, Liverpool’s smart deal for Joe Gomez has been further underlined by the fact Charlton Athletic will receive only £250,000 if he starts for England.
Two years ago, Liverpool spent just £3.5 million to sign Gomez from Charlton. The League One club received a small payment when the defender made his England Under-21 debut and will get £250,000 once he starts a senior game for his country. But at least £5 million will be added to the value of Gomez once he has been capped by his country.

 


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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 09 Nov 17 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

How would this work, we can't loan him as we've already got two loanies. Surely we won't be buying him cash up front without seeing him perform for longer injury free?

Maybe have the transfer and wages heavily based upon league appearances? Only way I guess.

That being said if he's fit and fighting for a England place then potentially we get a cracking player at a knock down price?

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 09 Nov 17 9.58pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Wiltshire has been playing well lately and if he really is on a mission to try and break into the England team. He just might be worth the risk at the right price!

However as Lyons550 has pointed out the 146 games in 10 seasons is a really damning stat that no club can ignore!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Nov 17 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Have to get lucky from one of the cheap unfit crocks we've been signing since promotion. Or do we?

 


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chateauferret Flag 09 Nov 17 10.40pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

How would this work, we can't loan him as we've already got two loanies. Surely we won't be buying him cash up front without seeing him perform for longer injury free?

Maybe have the transfer and wages heavily based upon league appearances? Only way I guess.

That being said if he's fit and fighting for a England place then potentially we get a cracking player at a knock down price?

Simple. Lots of conditional add-ons and fund it by dumping Puncheon.

Of course though if we're getting another midfielder the player he's likely to be replacing is McArthur.

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 09 Nov 17 11.23pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Have to get lucky from one of the cheap unfit crocks we've been signing since promotion. Or do we?

Who are the other ones? Apart from Wickham and Souare’s car crash (not really fitness related) I can’t think of too many.

 


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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 10 Nov 17 8.10am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

I'm not sure if he's a Palace type of player, he may have changed but he's always seemed like a complete and utter one to me.

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View Littlebogreek's Profile Littlebogreek Flag 10 Nov 17 8.29am Send a Private Message to Littlebogreek Add Littlebogreek as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Who are the other ones? Apart from Wickham and Souare’s car crash (not really fitness related) I can’t think of too many.

Loic Remy springs to mind!

 

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Originally posted by Pierre

Wiltshire has been playing well lately and if he really is on a mission to try and break into the England team. He just might be worth the risk at the right price!

However as Lyons550 has pointed out the 146 games in 10 seasons is a really damning stat that no club can ignore!


I didnt actually point that out...well at least i'm not sure that i did.

What I did point out though was that he seems to be getting over this 'injury prone' period of his career if the last 18months are anything to go by and if that's the case...NOW would be the time to go for him...not when he's back up to speed and attracting far better clubs.

 


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