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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 04 Jul 17 6.47pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Centre backs are very injury prone and collect lots of cards,I think four c.b.'s and a utility defender are required.

 

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View hastingseagle67's Profile hastingseagle67 Flag 04 Jul 17 7.33pm Send a Private Message to hastingseagle67 Add hastingseagle67 as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Finally a sensible Palace fan. We already need 4 or 5 players. Why would we weaken our squad to then replace with 2 more risks. One thing you can guarantee with Benteke is he will score at this level.

It's all about opinions isn't it. I really hope I'm proved wrong and Benteke flourishes under FDB, but having seen the way he struggled at the end of Pardew's "transition" experiment, I have concerns. The thread asked who would be best to sell, and considering the style of play I expect us to adopt, and the money we could demand for him, I consider Benteke to be an option to move on. Chelsea and City tend to buy some of the best young strikers in Europe and then don't play them. I think people soon forget how good some of these young second string players actually are.

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 04 Jul 17 7.41pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Benteke has already mentioned took time for him to get used to having less possession. Cos we play counter attacking football. Whenever he plays for Belgium they played pass and move. As did Liverpool whenever he played. As he did also with villa. Yes they popped it up to him a few times but villa are certainly not famous for direct play.

So hell be absolutely fine

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 04 Jul 17 8.00pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

Benteke has already mentioned took time for him to get used to having less possession. Cos we play counter attacking football. Whenever he plays for Belgium they played pass and move. As did Liverpool whenever he played. As he did also with villa. Yes they popped it up to him a few times but villa are certainly not famous for direct play.

So hell be absolutely fine

The criticism at Liverpool was they didn't get it to him early enough. Not to random parts of his body but just drilled to his feet when there was nobody in front of him blocking the pass. He would be an option 6 times before it was knocked around looking for a runner to collect a pass.

I suppose Rogers signed him and not Klopp so wasn't going to adapt to one player, but still, ignore a dangerous player for possession in front of 11 players?

 


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View bodge's Profile bodge Flag 04 Jul 17 9.28pm Send a Private Message to bodge Add bodge as a friend

Originally posted by hastingseagle67

It's all about opinions isn't it. I really hope I'm proved wrong and Benteke flourishes under FDB, but having seen the way he struggled at the end of Pardew's "transition" experiment, I have concerns. The thread asked who would be best to sell, and considering the style of play I expect us to adopt, and the money we could demand for him, I consider Benteke to be an option to move on. Chelsea and City tend to buy some of the best young strikers in Europe and then don't play them. I think people soon forget how good some of these young second string players actually are.

Under AP AT YC and CB were well below their best all top class players. FDB will get the best out of them i have no doubt about that.

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 04 Jul 17 10.12pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

I disagree with that bit. What you have to realise is Benteke had been at Liverpool for a season where he played a bit part and most of his limited minutes were from the bench.

The first half of the season compared to the second half were two different Bentekes. He got match fitness, match sharpness and confidence back which as much as we'd like to say, he's a professional footballer so should turn it on instantly, just doesn't happen and takes time.

I fully expect Benteke to have a better season, having had a full season under his belt last year playing regularly.

It's the same with Begovic, I would expect he'll be a tad rusty for half the season at Bournemouth having sat on Chelsea's bench for 2 years.

Agreed John especially the Begovic paragraph.

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 05 Jul 17 10.51am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Then how can you post if you're dead?

Thanks god someone gets my nick name here. After the ledge that was Walter Matthau.

Loved his movies. Him along with ol gene wilder... Everyone here calls me Matthew lol.

My names kev. Croydon. 40. Married. Two cats. Work in London. Straight. Currently in the loo rushing things as I leave for work at 11

 

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View Indefatigable's Profile Indefatigable Flag South London 06 Jul 17 11.45am Send a Private Message to Indefatigable Add Indefatigable as a friend

There is no Universe in existence where Kelly sells for £6m and McArthur for £8m.

Also McArthur is a keeper, not in the sense he saves goals (although he does do that), but in the sense that it would be utter madness to sell him.

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 06 Jul 17 11.51am Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Indefatigable

There is no Universe in existence where Kelly sells for £6m and McArthur for £8m.

Also McArthur is a keeper, not in the sense he saves goals (although he does do that), but in the sense that it would be utter madness to sell him.

Have you seen some of the prices banded around. I can't see Kelly fetching 6m but mcarthur could easily get 8m , what we paid 2 season ago.

 


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View Indefatigable's Profile Indefatigable Flag South London 06 Jul 17 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Indefatigable Add Indefatigable as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Have you seen some of the prices banded around. I can't see Kelly fetching 6m but mcarthur could easily get 8m , what we paid 2 season ago.

Sorry let me be clear, what I meant was, if Kelly is worth £6m, McArthur is worth way more than £8m.

I reckon for Kelly's experience he's worth the 6.

Contract length remaining aside I actually think it wouldn't be worth us selling McArthur for anything under £15m upfront, and even then, have a younger, cheaper version of him ready to come in.

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 30 Jul 17 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

IF de Boer DOESN'T RATE them :- we should sell j.williams, mutch, Ward , Cabaye, Sako, Mcarthur, Chungy
J.williams - 1m
Mutch - ??m
Ward - 1.5m
Cabaye- 10m (I don't want to sell but if he's not first choice)
Sako- 2m
Mcarthur- 6m
Chungy - 800k
Total:- just over 20m

Of course we need some depth first before considering sell them. If the manager doesn't trust these players. It's better to get players that are comfortable in this style.

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 30 Jul 17 2.59pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

IF de Boer DOESN'T RATE them :- we should sell j.williams, mutch, Ward , Cabaye, Sako, Mcarthur, Chungy
J.williams - 1m
Mutch - ??m
Ward - 1.5m
Cabaye- 10m (I don't want to sell but if he's not first choice)
Sako- 2m
Mcarthur- 6m
Chungy - 800k
Total:- just over 20m

Of course we need some depth first before considering sell them. If the manager doesn't trust these players. It's better to get players that are comfortable in this style.


Selling or releasing them and replacing for a club of our size is a two to three year transition. Sadly


Edited by matthau (30 Jul 2017 3.00pm)

 

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