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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 03 Aug 17 9.10am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

The type of injury he sustained will make him slower. And speed is something he needed.
Poor sod looks like he will be lucky to make the premier again.
Big heavy players seem to suffer. Look at Sakho. Where is his fitness today?

conversely, he was never able to rely on speed to score goals, so it shouldn't make much difference

 

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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

conversely, he was never able to rely on speed to score goals, so it shouldn't make much difference

I disagree Saweet. The fact he was not quick and will definitely be slower after this injury effectively rules him out of a future at top level.
Poor bloke is destined to a drop of one or two leagues when he is recovered.
From Palace's position we should not be relying on Wickham to return as cover. We desperately need cover NOW.
Sad though it is to say, my opinion is CW career at the Palace is over.

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I disagree Saweet. The fact he was not quick and will definitely be slower after this injury effectively rules him out of a future at top level.
Poor bloke is destined to a drop of one or two leagues when he is recovered.
From Palace's position we should not be relying on Wickham to return as cover. We desperately need cover NOW.
Sad though it is to say, my opinion is CW career at the Palace is over.

I agree we need a better second choice striker as things look at present and I expect we will get someone in before the window closes. I'm not ruling out Wickham yet though as with the right rehab he can get his (limited) quickness and sharpness back. He's young enough to heal properly and the benefit is that the rest of his body has had a break which can actually prolong a career (so a physiotherapist told me once). We're not desperate yet. We'll be desperate if Benteke gets injured.

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

The fact he was not quick and will definitely be slower after this injury effectively rules him out of a future at top level.
Poor bloke is destined to a drop of one or two leagues when he is recovered.

Yet everyone was complaining like mad when we sold Glen Murray who also didn't rely on speed and suffered the same injury

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Yet everyone was complaining like mad when we sold Glen Murray who also didn't rely on speed and suffered the same injury


If only Wickham had a fraction of GM's nous and eye for goal we'd be laughing, but he's been a far inferior replacement.

According to Soccerbase :

GM - League Games / Goals : 315 / 164


CW - League Games / Goals : 121 / 40

 

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Dont look like Connor will make the 25 but hes always gave me the impression that hes not that upset when hes out injured. I know this injury was a bad one but a lot of the times its calf strains etc and a two week recuperation for most players is a six week minimum for him

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 03 Aug 17 3.36pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

need to get rid of this guy it was a mistake taking him to begin with his record sucked it was panic buy.

He is happy sitting out injured some one in the past commented about him may of been Fat Sam that he wasn't about the football just the glam

Edited by grumpymort (03 Aug 2017 3.37pm)

 


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Originally posted by tonymikejoe


If only Wickham had a fraction of GM's nous and eye for goal we'd be laughing, but he's been a far inferior replacement.

According to Soccerbase :

GM - League Games / Goals : 315 / 164


CW - League Games / Goals : 121 / 40

He showed plenty of nous and an eye for goal when he had a proper run in the team. He's more of a physical target, and his link up play was very good as well. He absolutely bullied Man Utd and Watford at Wembley.

Should also be pointed out the vast majority of Murray's games and goals came in lower divisions, and Wickham has had to play out wide a lot. He's also only just 24, so has plenty of time to recover and be a good Premier League player.

 


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glaziermart Flag 06 Aug 17 8.56pm

Originally posted by steven_t92

He's made of glass, so he'll be back for about a month and then off again. Anyone could have told Pardew it was a stupid buy.

Edited by steven_t92 (01 Aug 2017 5.52pm)

Totally untrue. His injury record was very good before he joined us. He has just been unlucky

 

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Originally posted by tonymikejoe


If only Wickham had a fraction of GM's nous and eye for goal we'd be laughing, but he's been a far inferior replacement.

According to Soccerbase :

GM - League Games / Goals : 315 / 164


CW - League Games / Goals : 121 / 40

According to your soccerbase stats at 24 Murray had played 150 games scoring 43 goals, none of which at a higher level than league 2. Wickham at the same age has played 30 less games and is 3 goals shy all at Championship or higher. I'd say the argument about inferiority ends there.

 


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Originally posted by Icepick Tony

According to your soccerbase stats at 24 Murray had played 150 games scoring 43 goals, none of which at a higher level than league 2. Wickham at the same age has played 30 less games and is 3 goals shy all at Championship or higher. I'd say the argument about inferiority ends there.

Murray I would imagine has also played a lot more games for teams at the top of their division than CW who has spent the last few years plying his trade for us and Sunderland struggling in the lower reaches of the Prem.
While there is some cause and effect ambiguity there, generally speaking strikers score a lot more when their teams are flying high...Andy Johnson being a notable exception.

 

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Originally posted by Icepick Tony

According to your soccerbase stats at 24 Murray had played 150 games scoring 43 goals, none of which at a higher level than league 2. Wickham at the same age has played 30 less games and is 3 goals shy all at Championship or higher. I'd say the argument about inferiority ends there.

Let's forget the stats for a moment.

Are you seriously suggesting that CW is a better centre-forward than GM?

If you are then you are clueless about football.

Let me sum it up like this. It's a bloody good job we had GM's 30 league goals in 2012-13 rather than your man CW toiling away up front like the donkey he always has been and always will be.

 

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