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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm not going to repeat myself because you're too lazy to properly read replies. Go and read, it's just a few hours old.

As for the rest of your stuff, you just keep repeating yourself.


The only thing that I can find is this:-

"However, policies such as banning male circumcision and the preparation of Halal meat would not only stop these barbaric practices but make this country less attractive to this issue".

Are you seriously suggesting those to be relevant policies which which solve these problems? Seriously? I passed over them as just the froth they are. Banning cruel slaughter house practices may well form a part of a much larger future package but without some of the other things I have suggested need to be ramped up would, on their own, just make things worse

Coming from the king of repetition your last comment made me smile. Thanks for that.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


The only thing that I can find is this:-

"However, policies such as banning male circumcision and the preparation of Halal meat would not only stop these barbaric practices but make this country less attractive to this issue".

Are you seriously suggesting those to be relevant policies which which solve these problems? Seriously? I passed over them as just the froth they are. Banning cruel slaughter house practices may well form a part of a much larger future package but without some of the other things I have suggested need to be ramped up would, on their own, just make things worse

Coming from the king of repetition your last comment made me smile. Thanks for that.

You have some cheek to refer to 'froth'. Realising that you weren't properly reading replies written to you says a lot. I was reading yours but I'll just skim in future and pay you the same regard.

I provided two obvious practical examples of what could be done. I didn't go over a whole process because that would be a huge post and it's not my job. But those are two obvious low hanging fruits that the moral cowards in power won't even countenance.

You produced warm worded subjective nonsense talking about 'love and healing' like some kind of seventies CND hippy...and waffle about wishing for the end of religions.....All impractical waffle which shows a stunning lack of appreciation for how human nature works around differing cultural prisms.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and your politics is a prime example of that.....cloud cuckoo land.

Indeed the people whose politics landed us here are not the people who anyone can expect to even begin to solve it.


 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But he is representing his country or should we ignore America’s involvement in D Day? Or maybe they could send Beyoncé and Jay Z who would be more relatable. And doubtless educate Britain on how the war could’ve been won with dancing and showing more respect.
There have been state visits from Mugabe, Mobuto, Suharto, Ceausescu and many others but Trump should be banned? Unbelievable.

I didn't say he should be banned, only that inviting him in the first place is a mistake. Inviting an allie to celebrate D day is fine but we all know that Trump will try to turn the attention onto himself and then he will face huge demonstrations that will themselves distract from the serious nature of the events. With him likely to be embroiled in increasing controversy and only in office for another 18 months at most I think a diplomatic reason should have been found to delay a state visit. A visit just to celebrate D day but without all the state pomp might have been OK.

As for the others well every one needs to be assessed on it's merits and whilst all of them were objectionable I guess the reasoning was that we might be able to use the occasion to modify and influence things for the better. No chance of that with Trump. He is more likely to try to give us the benefit of his enormous ego on Brexit than absorb any of our wisdom.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You have some cheek to refer to 'froth'. Realising that you weren't properly reading replies written to you says a lot. I was reading yours but I'll just skim in future and pay you the same regard.

I provided two obvious practical examples of what could be done. I didn't go over a whole process because that would be a huge post and it's not my job. But those are two obvious low hanging fruits that the moral cowards in power won't even countenance.

You produced warm worded subjective nonsense talking about 'love and healing' like some kind of seventies CND hippy...and waffle about wishing for the end of religions.....All impractical waffle which shows a stunning lack of appreciation for how human nature works around differing cultural prisms.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and your politics is a prime example of that.....cloud cuckoo land.

Indeed the people whose politics landed us here are not the people who anyone can expect to even begin to solve it.


Oh I read it but did not regard those words as serious policy suggestions.

Froth is indeed what that was. Impracticable and irrelevant pieces of nonsense that would just make things worse. We need societal change that requires a deep structural approach and not just silly tokenism. So what I said is completely true. You have no answers and no policies. Just complaints.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh I read it but did not regard those words as serious policy suggestions.

Froth is indeed what that was. Impracticable and irrelevant pieces of nonsense that would just make things worse. We need societal change that requires a deep structural approach and not just silly tokenism. So what I said is completely true. You have no answers and no policies. Just complaints.

You carry on with your delusions old boy. In the meantime real life will play out.

You carry on fighting 'racism' with 'love and healing'......from Cornwall.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You carry on with your delusions old boy. In the meantime real life will play out.

You carry on fighting 'racism' with 'love and healing'......from Cornwall.

Love and healing are not policies. They are what guide the formation of policy. Sometimes hard love is necessary to produce good for all.

Your approach, along with all those who simply complain, is conflict and aggression which makes things worse and increases division.


My home is in Cornwall but I live in the UK and travel the world. Both my eyes and my heart are open. You seem to live in a bubble of hatred and despair in which anyone not like you is either a "snowflake", a terrorist or a potential terrorist, because they have a religious belief that you don't like.

Delusional? Yes you are!

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Love and healing are not policies. They are what guide the formation of policy. Sometimes hard love is necessary to produce good for all.

Your approach, along with all those who simply complain, is conflict and aggression which makes things worse and increases division.

My home is in Cornwall but I live in the UK and travel the world. Both my eyes and my heart are open. You seem to live in a bubble of hatred and despair in which anyone not like you is either a "snowflake", a terrorist or a potential terrorist, because they have a religious belief that you don't like.

Delusional? Yes you are!

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't say he should be banned, only that inviting him in the first place is a mistake. Inviting an allie to celebrate D day is fine but we all know that Trump will try to turn the attention onto himself and then he will face huge demonstrations that will themselves distract from the serious nature of the events. With him likely to be embroiled in increasing controversy and only in office for another 18 months at most I think a diplomatic reason should have been found to delay a state visit. A visit just to celebrate D day but without all the state pomp might have been OK.

As for the others well every one needs to be assessed on it's merits and whilst all of them were objectionable I guess the reasoning was that we might be able to use the occasion to modify and influence things for the better. No chance of that with Trump. He is more likely to try to give us the benefit of his enormous ego on Brexit than absorb any of our wisdom.

The chances of influencing muderous dictators during the course of one visit aren’t good.
In this instance we are recognising the office of President rather than the incumbent and the bottom line, to me anyway, is what has he actually done which is so reprehensible?

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The chances of influencing muderous dictators during the course of one visit aren’t good.
In this instance we are recognising the office of President rather than the incumbent and the bottom line, to me anyway, is what has he actually done which is so reprehensible?

Just ask this guy, for one. He has some pretty good examples.

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Another one bites the dust.

Trump is like brexit, he doesn’t create new supporters as time goes on, he simply loses them. His approval rating tells the story.

Edited by Maine Eagle (24 Apr 2019 2.00pm)

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Just ask this guy, for one. He has some pretty good examples.

[Link]

Another one bites the dust.

Trump is like brexit, he doesn’t create new supporters as time goes on, he simply loses them. His approval rating tells the story.

Edited by Maine Eagle (24 Apr 2019 2.00pm)

So another person who doesn’t like Trump’s personality. This is not exactly wrecking the USA. You can’t just say “He’s a bully. Case closed”. What has he actively done that adversely affects people? Has he destroyed the economy or gone into an unwinnable war?
His approval ratings before the election told a story as well. In fact many experts were convinced there was no way he could win.


 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 24 Apr 19 3.13pm

For me it's not just his persona but the general dumbing down of politics these days and populism of which he is symbolic. I think he is clever in that it is easy to get the mob vote by saying the things they want to hear, he knows they will never scrutinise his policies closely or judge his character. Feed into their patriotism, make out you're on their side, paint an enemy, then say we'll build a wall, make our country great again. That would obviously appeal to the mob but what surprises me is why seemingly intelligent people are seduced by this and not see through such patronising claptrap. You know people are hoodwinked when Donald Trump is seen as the anti-establishment figure

The problem is it is dangerous because what you end up with is disingenuous politicians which has crept in over here, for instance Mrs May stating things in Parliament she doesn't believe in

Edited by Pussay Patrol (24 Apr 2019 3.16pm)

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

For me it's not just his persona but the general dumbing down of politics these days and populism of which he is symbolic. I think he is clever in that it is easy to get the mob vote by saying the things they want to hear, he knows they will never scrutinise his policies closely or judge his character. Feed into their patriotism, make out you're on their side, paint an enemy, then say we'll build a wall, make our country great again. That would obviously appeal to the mob but what surprises me is why seemingly intelligent people are seduced by this and not see through such patronising claptrap. You know people are hoodwinked when Donald Trump is seen as the anti-establishment figure

The problem is it is dangerous because what you end up with is disingenuous politicians which has crept in over here, for instance Mrs May stating things in Parliament she doesn't believe in

Edited by Pussay Patrol (24 Apr 2019 3.16pm)

Yes, I would agree with most of what you say but expecting politicians to say what they believe is unrealistic. We’ve been through this; Corbyn has been anti- Europe all his life but is now magically convinced of it's benefits?
Disingenuity is the byword of politicians. Except in dictatorships of course where it’s just self preservation.

 

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