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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sad that he's gone....but by the looks of him towards the end it looked like he ate everything at arm's length.

And he had arms like Twizzle. One for the teenagers there.

 

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Originally posted by Park Road

I'm only doing this because of your difficulty with search engines
Copy and pasted from Collins dictionary

adjective
A Caucasian person is a white person.
[formal]
...a 25-year-old Caucasian male.
A Caucasian is someone who is Caucasian.
Ann Hamilton was a Caucasian from New England.
2. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]
Anthropologists use Caucasian to refer to someone from a racial grouping coming from Europe, North Africa, and western Asia

Caucasian is a term which has slipped into use, particularly in the USA as a means of avoiding using "white" in much the same way as American American has for "black". It's lazy, inaccurate, potentially divisive and resisted by anthropologists who use your 2. which is indeed correct.

"White race" is the term I am interested in where you think it is defined. I believe it is another inaccurate term which has slipped into use in the USA. It is not found in either the OED or Websters, in my opinion for good reasons but it is in Collins, which is not an encyclopedia I reference regularly. Even they though condition their definition with "Loosely" and define it as "the Caucasoid group of mankind".

Caucasoid is itself defined as "denoting, relating to, or belonging to the lighter-complexioned supposed racial group of humankind, which includes the peoples indigenous to Europe, N Africa, SW Asia, and the Indian subcontinent and their descendants in other parts of the world."

Lighter-complexioned does not equal white. Nor does all of those various regions provide one homogeneous
racial stereotype. Note the use of "supposed" in your choice of dictionary.


 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This is a totally ridiculous position one of the many you take up.

Stop telling people they don't have a racial identity from your near exclusively white enclave of Cornwall.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 May 2019 3.47am)

The only thing that is ridiculous is you referencing Wikipedia and the "Free Dictionary" as your sources. For more reasoning read my above reply.

Of course you have a racial identity. Yes, even you! We are all humans.

We also have cultural identities but that's an entirely different concept although some appear to confuse the two things.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Caucasian is a term which has slipped into use, particularly in the USA as a means of avoiding using "white" in much the same way as American American has for "black". It's lazy, inaccurate, potentially divisive and resisted by anthropologists who use your 2. which is indeed correct.

"White race" is the term I am interested in where you think it is defined. I believe it is another inaccurate term which has slipped into use in the USA. It is not found in either the OED or Websters, in my opinion for good reasons but it is in Collins, which is not an encyclopedia I reference regularly. Even they though condition their definition with "Loosely" and define it as "the Caucasoid group of mankind".

Caucasoid is itself defined as "denoting, relating to, or belonging to the lighter-complexioned supposed racial group of humankind, which includes the peoples indigenous to Europe, N Africa, SW Asia, and the Indian subcontinent and their descendants in other parts of the world."

Lighter-complexioned does not equal white. Nor does all of those various regions provide one homogeneous
racial stereotype. Note the use of "supposed" in your choice of dictionary.


Why do you care about all this? Be honest. It's to try and undermine the heritage of one particular ethnic group.

Did your missus fill your head with this stuff Yoko Ono style?

 

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Park Road Flag 16 May 19 3.22pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Caucasian is a term which has slipped into use, particularly in the USA as a means of avoiding using "white" in much the same way as American American has for "black". It's lazy, inaccurate, potentially divisive and resisted by anthropologists who use your 2. which is indeed correct.

"White race" is the term I am interested in where you think it is defined. I believe it is another inaccurate term which has slipped into use in the USA. It is not found in either the OED or Websters, in my opinion for good reasons but it is in Collins, which is not an encyclopedia I reference regularly. Even they though condition their definition with "Loosely" and define it as "the Caucasoid group of mankind".

Caucasoid is itself defined as "denoting, relating to, or belonging to the lighter-complexioned supposed racial group of humankind, which includes the peoples indigenous to Europe, N Africa, SW Asia, and the Indian subcontinent and their descendants in other parts of the world."

Lighter-complexioned does not equal white. Nor does all of those various regions provide one homogeneous
racial stereotype. Note the use of "supposed" in your choice of dictionary.



I didn't read any of that...
But knowing your condition...I reject all of it.

Wisbech, have a cuppa, you say races don't exist , all dictionaries and encyclopaedias say the opposite...


 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No, I communicated with you.....it's just a waste of time. There's nothing of worth that you have to say to me. From what I can tell I pretty much oppose most of what you state....you waffle, make doubtful statements and don't read replies.

I'd rather chew the cud with posters that have intellectual weight or are entertaining or some mixture of the two.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 May 2019 8.49am)

What you really mean is that you have run out of answers!

I won't miss you at all. You are exactly the kind of political animal that I believe is doing so much damage to the UK, it's people and it's future.

I am implacably opposed to the direction of travel that you, and your kind, want to take us both here and in the USA.

My hope is that it is a temporary phenomenon and that the minority that you are part of have simply become more confident and emboldened by Trump's election. I trust that once he has disappeared into the oblivion he so richly deserves your views will follow, and the trend I have witnessed over my lifetime towards a more tolerant, inclusive society can resume it's evolutionary path.

In the meantime don't expect me not to read your contributions. I will when they involve a subject I have an interest in and I will comment whenever I feel it is needed.

 


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Originally posted by Park Road


I didn't read any of that...
But knowing your condition...I reject all of it.

Wisbech, have a cuppa, you say races don't exist , all dictionaries and encyclopaedias say the opposite...


Well done. They say ignorance is bliss so you must be very happy. If you don't consider alternative thinking you will forever wander in a mist of your own making.

I have not said races don't exist. I have said they aren't defined by skin colour, that pure races don't exist and that it is more accurate to discuss cultural bonds that the divisive one of race, which is often a smokescreen for hatred.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 May 2019 3.36pm)

 


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Park Road Flag 16 May 19 3.31pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What you really mean is that you have run out of answers!

I won't miss you at all. You are exactly the kind of political animal that I believe is doing so much damage to the UK, it's people and it's future.

I am implacably opposed to the direction of travel that you, and your kind, want to take us both here and in the USA.

My hope is that it is a temporary phenomenon and that the minority that you are part of have simply become more confident and emboldened by Trump's election. I trust that once he has disappeared into the oblivion he so richly deserves your views will follow, and the trend I have witnessed over my lifetime towards a more tolerant, inclusive society can resume it's evolutionary path.

In the meantime don't expect me not to read your contributions. I will when they involve a subject I have an interest in and I will comment whenever I feel it is needed.

Small violin...

Edited by Park Road (16 May 2019 3.34pm)

 

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Park Road Flag 16 May 19 3.35pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Well done. They say ignorance is bliss so you must be very happy. If you don't consider alternative thinking you will forever wander in a mist of your own making.

Only you have the answer to that...

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The only thing that is ridiculous is you referencing Wikipedia and the "Free Dictionary" as your sources. For more reasoning read my above reply.

Of course you have a racial identity. Yes, even you! We are all humans.

We also have cultural identities but that's an entirely different concept although some appear to confuse the two things.

Ridiculous is it? You made a claim concerning search engines and I simply showed how ridiculous you are.

Yes, all humans are members of the human race. However, evolution moved on to create different types just as their are different types of birds in the sky.

You can deny whatever you like and pretend different categories don't exist. Frankly I don't really care.
I'm a WASP or to be more accurate WASA and you can reject that all you like from your near exclusively WASP enclave of Cornwall.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What you really mean is that you have run out of answers!

I won't miss you at all. You are exactly the kind of political animal that I believe is doing so much damage to the UK, it's people and it's future.

I am implacably opposed to the direction of travel that you, and your kind, want to take us both here and in the USA.

My hope is that it is a temporary phenomenon and that the minority that you are part of have simply become more confident and emboldened by Trump's election. I trust that once he has disappeared into the oblivion he so richly deserves your views will follow, and the trend I have witnessed over my lifetime towards a more tolerant, inclusive society can resume it's evolutionary path.

In the meantime don't expect me not to read your contributions. I will when they involve a subject I have an interest in and I will comment whenever I feel it is needed.

Could you be any more pompous and self-important?

Please don't ever feel obliged to respond to my posts either.

Really... Please don't.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In the meantime don't expect me not to read your contributions. I will when they involve a subject I have an interest in and I will comment whenever I feel it is needed.

I asked you to stop posting to me but you won't. That says all it needs to say about you.

The sooner we have a block facility on here the better.

 


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