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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 19 3.55pm |
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Of the FBI and congressional committees who I suspect know rather more than either of us!
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 29 Jan 19 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That you are unable to see the facts, reason and logic in my posts doesn't mean they aren't there! It just means that you either cannot see them or reject them because they conflict with your preconceptions. For the umpteenth time as I am not the least bit "left wing" it seems hardly likely I would adopt their tactics. Stupidity exists everywhere. Challenge any of my posts on this thread with a counter argument then. That's how debate works.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Jan 19 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of the FBI and congressional committees who I suspect know rather more than either of us! Mmmmm....I suspect that they are rather selective about what they pursue......we agreed where you said it depends upon who is on those committees.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Jan 19 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
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| ChrisGC Wantage 29 Jan 19 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I can't help it if you don't like real facts, but prefer "alternative" ones! The whole Trump presidency has been a circus from the moment he first hinted he would stand. He has turned politics into an extension of his reality TV show, but now conducted on Twitter and Fox. To describe it thus is not prejudice at all. It is just a reflection of reality. We need real politicians to represent our interests and not empty-headed, self-obsessed sociopaths. With Trump it's all about personality. You cannot avoid discussing it. That's what he stood on and what he will fall on too. What other type of facts are there?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 19 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The main bulk of the investigation has been around punishing Trump associates by investigating them far more rigorously than Clinton's were. If you think that's justice because Trump is president I don't agree.....I think if you are going to be this exact then it should be done to both final presidential campaigns or none at all. Nothing is coming from Mueller and nothing will be determined as provable, or not, until it is presented to a Court. There are though many leaks emanating from sources who are believed to be connected to the intelligence communities of the developed world. Some is being flagged up in the MSM but much more from "citizen journalists". Not Fox or Breitbart of course. The MSM cannot yet publish too much due to their need for verification. I know that you will dismiss this but things that ring true, ring true. If it quacks like a duck etc etc. The reason that Trump's associates are being worked over ought to be obvious, but not the obvious that you would jump to. Like any good lawyer Mueller already knows the truth, just as the FBI and others have for a long time. Knowing and proving it to the satisfaction of a Court are though two different things, so leaning on the smaller fry makes sense. Doing this because Trump is the POTUS is more than just justice. It's an essential duty. If the intelligence services know that there is a criminal in the White House then they need to do everything possible to expose that. If he isn't then he has nothing to fear from due process.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 19 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
What other type of facts are there? The ones that Trump relies on. Found in my dictionary under "lies". Reference, Kellyanne Conway.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Jan 19 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Challenge any of my posts on this thread with a counter argument then. That's how debate works. You challenged his post, and didn’t offer any counter argument - why should Wisbech be obliged to counter yours?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 19 6.18pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Russian interference in the 2016 election, via the "Internet Research Agency" Trump's team's connections with Moscow. Flynn's, Manafort's, Cohen's, Papadopoulos's involvement and prosecution. There's more. none of it yet disproven.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 19 6.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Mmmmm....I suspect that they are rather selective about what they pursue......we agreed where you said it depends upon who is on those committees. When did I say that? Congressional committees often publish two versions, and split down party lines but the truth has a way of being obvious. The FBI do select what they pursue! They choose those things which are both unlawful and important. They are blind to politics but far from blind when it comes to criminality.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 29 Jan 19 6.24pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Challenge any of my posts on this thread with a counter argument then. That's how debate works. no it doesn't.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 19 6.24pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Challenge any of my posts on this thread with a counter argument then. That's how debate works. I did with post you responded to but once again you fail to recognise that.
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