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deleted user 18 Jul 19 6.56pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays 'Fairly'....Mmmmm....So why are you interested in an immigration policy which is practically the same as Japan's? Which is, as we know, designed specifically to keep the Japanese biologically Japanese.....which means they have to have a preference for their race in terms of immigration. So what is the point in having a immigration policy that is similar? Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 6.39pm) Not every conclusion a person comes to relates to a persons skin colour or genetic code. It's unrealistic to view to hold some kind of heal the world outlook. We are a small island, and can't simply say 'everyone in', and why should we, just because people want a better life here and this is their 'top choice' as appears to be the rationale of many moving here. We have a housing shortage, and I certainly do not and have not denied that people of different cultures do not always magically assimilate and that there are not problems due to that. Take the language barrier for instance. Infrastructure too. I'm not of the view that heaping millions of cheap labour individuals helps those already here, especially the poor. Those of all races. I would not be remotely fazed if we closed the border tomorrow. As for Japan or any other country, I have no problem with how they run their affairs. Why would I. Any choice by a society brings its pros and cons. We live in a very connected world, online and off, though again in both regards the language barrier certainly plays a role with Japan. A Japan of a couple of a few years may not be identical to a Japan of today. The world doesn't tend to perpetually adhere to any one view. There is ebb and flow. But that's for them, just as we 'should' be able to decide our immigration policy. That's a situation still in flux though unfortunately. For every country you work with what you have and what you are as a nation and go from there. I don't differentiate the role and worth of a countryman based on their skin colour. Where people overly do, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy anyway as those individuals will not be a feature of their life. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.15pm)
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18 Jul 19 6.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Fairly'....Mmmmm....So why are you interested in an immigration policy which is practically the same as Japan's?

Which is, as we know, designed specifically to keep the Japanese biologically Japanese.....which means they have to have a preference for their race in terms of immigration.

So what is the point in having a immigration policy that is similar?

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 6.39pm)

Not every conclusion a person comes to relates to a persons skin colour or genetic code.

It's unrealistic to view to hold some kind of heal the world outlook. We are a small island, and can't simply say 'everyone in', and why should we, just because people want a better life here and this is their 'top choice' as appears to be the rationale of many moving here. We have a housing shortage, and I certainly do not and have not denied that people of different cultures do not always magically assimilate and that there are not problems due to that. Take the language barrier for instance. Infrastructure too. I'm not of the view that heaping millions of cheap labour individuals helps those already here, especially the poor. Those of all races. I would not be remotely fazed if we closed the border tomorrow.

As for Japan or any other country, I have no problem with how they run their affairs. Why would I. Any choice by a society brings its pros and cons. We live in a very connected world, online and off, though again in both regards the language barrier certainly plays a role with Japan. A Japan of a couple of a few years may not be identical to a Japan of today. The world doesn't tend to perpetually adhere to any one view. There is ebb and flow. But that's for them, just as we 'should' be able to decide our immigration policy. That's a situation still in flux though unfortunately.

For every country you work with what you have and what you are as a nation and go from there. I don't differentiate the role and worth of a countryman based on their skin colour. Where people overly do, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy anyway as those individuals will not be a feature of their life.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.15pm)

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.TUX. 18 Jul 19 7.28pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I am standing up for my 'race' and my way of life. There are now many who wish to destroy that for their own ends. I find the whole question of what is 'racist' and what is not, increasingly tedious and unimportant. All the time organisations and individuals use identity to press agendas, there will be an opposite response. Trump was elected as a push back to the erosion of Western society by those who are induced by globalists and their identity driven puppets to destroy the status quo. The simple fact is that 99% of people living in Britain or the US are better off per capita than all but the very richest. They use most of the world's resources per capita and live relatively comfortable lives. Some are still not happy with being in that number because they are at the bottom of it. At the same time, an increasing number from abroad see how we live and want some of it. This will ultimately dilute what we in the West have and that process will accelerate rapidly over the coming decades. Meanwhile, you want to argue about what Trump said. This. We've all been played yet some still refuse to see it. Despite what the globalists say, uncontrolled immigration has been a bloody disaster for the population for many years now. The population never asked for it, haven't benefitted from it but are constantly paying the price for it. Buy Litecoin.
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18 Jul 19 7.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I am standing up for my 'race' and my way of life.
There are now many who wish to destroy that for their own ends.

I find the whole question of what is 'racist' and what is not, increasingly tedious and unimportant.

All the time organisations and individuals use identity to press agendas, there will be an opposite response. Trump was elected as a push back to the erosion of Western society by those who are induced by globalists and their identity driven puppets to destroy the status quo.
The simple fact is that 99% of people living in Britain or the US are better off per capita than all but the very richest. They use most of the world's resources per capita and live relatively comfortable lives.
Some are still not happy with being in that number because they are at the bottom of it. At the same time, an increasing number from abroad see how we live and want some of it. This will ultimately dilute what we in the West have and that process will accelerate rapidly over the coming decades.

Meanwhile, you want to argue about what Trump said.

This.
We've all been played yet some still refuse to see it.
Despite what the globalists say, uncontrolled immigration has been a bloody disaster for the population for many years now.
The population never asked for it, haven't benefitted from it but are constantly paying the price for it.

Buy Litecoin.

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Stirlingsays 18 Jul 19 7.38pm
Originally posted by dollardays Not every conclusion a person comes to relates to a persons skin colour or genetic code. It's unrealistic to view to hold some kind of heal the world outlook. We are a small island, and can't simply say 'everyone in', and why should we, just because people want a better life here and this is their 'top choice' as appears to be the rationale of many moving here. We have a housing shortage, and I certainly do not and have not denied that people of different cultures do not always magically assimilate and that there are not problems due to that. Take the language barrier for instance. Infrastructure too. I'm not of the view that heaping millions of cheap labour individuals helps those already here, especially the poor. Those of all races. I would not be remotely fazed if we closed the border tomorrow. As for Japan or any other country, I have no problem with how they run their affairs. Why would I. Any choice by a society brings its pros and cons. We live in a very connected world, online and off, though again in both regards the language barrier certainly plays a role with Japan. A Japan of a couple of a few years may not be identical to a Japan of today. The world doesn't tend to perpetually adhere to any one view. There is ebb and flow. But that's for them, just as we 'should' be able to decide our immigration policy. That's a situation still in flux though unfortunately. For every country you work with what you have and what you are as a nation and go from there. I don't differentiate the role and worth of a countryman based on their skin colour. Where people overly do, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy anyway as those individuals will not be a feature of their life. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.15pm) Yes, every year your body's cells aren't the same make up as the previous years but....I rather think you regard you as you. The make up of Japan hasn't changed in many thousands of years...which is the case for many other countries as well. Essentially you are stating that you have no specific interest in any notion of the European or English remaining as the hegemonic identity in the country because you don't see that as important. But say If the country sorted out the housing crisis and.....say, rather magically the assimilation aspect of 'different cultures' reduced as an issue....because to put it quite frankly the 'Anglo Saxons' here became the minority. In that case I take it you'd have no issue with relaxing this immigration policy? Your interest is purely in cosmetic as you state it....Perhaps you'd forgive me if I suggested that it's in reality to reduce the risk to your own identity group of very real and quite severe persecution generations down the line....If I'm right about that I'd agree with you as that's a real concern. In my view, you should be very interested indeed in ensuring that Europe stayed European...and hence England English....because as we can see....The EU seems to have a rather easy going attitude towards 'Eurabia'....with the same idealistic attitudes towards assimilation that go against all the evidence. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 7.42pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Jul 19 7.38pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Not every conclusion a person comes to relates to a persons skin colour or genetic code.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.15pm)

Yes, every year your body's cells aren't the same make up as the previous years but....I rather think you regard you as you.

The make up of Japan hasn't changed in many thousands of years...which is the case for many other countries as well.

Essentially you are stating that you have no specific interest in any notion of the European or English remaining as the hegemonic identity in the country because you don't see that as important.

But say If the country sorted out the housing crisis and.....say, rather magically the assimilation aspect of 'different cultures' reduced as an issue....because to put it quite frankly the 'Anglo Saxons' here became the minority.

In that case I take it you'd have no issue with relaxing this immigration policy?

Your interest is purely in cosmetic as you state it....Perhaps you'd forgive me if I suggested that it's in reality to reduce the risk to your own identity group of very real and quite severe persecution generations down the line....If I'm right about that I'd agree with you as that's a real concern.

In my view, you should be very interested indeed in ensuring that Europe stayed European...and hence England English....because as we can see....The EU seems to have a rather easy going attitude towards 'Eurabia'....with the same idealistic attitudes towards assimilation that go against all the evidence.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 7.42pm)

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yes, every year your body's cells aren't the same make up as the previous years but....I rather think you regard you as you. The make up of Japan hasn't changed in many thousands of years...which is the case for many other countries as well. Essentially you are stating that you have no interest in any notion of the European or English remaining at the hegemonic identity in the country. Say If the country sorted out the housing crisis and.....say, rather magically the assimilation aspect of 'different cultures' reduced as an issue....because to put it quite frankly the 'Anglo Saxons' here became the minority. In that case I take it you'd have no issue with relaxing this immigration policy? Your interest is purely in cosmetic as you state it....Perhaps it's to reduce the risk to your own identity group of very real and quite severe persecution generations down the line....If I'm right about that I'd agree with you as that's a real concern. In my view, you should be very interested indeed in ensuring that Europe stayed European...and hence England English....because as we can see....The EU seems to have a rather easy going attitude towards 'Eurabia'. Essentially the impact of my political approach is that the country will reflect that. If you're going to become so niche in your racial outlook on life than even people who agree with you on policy are an issue for you, then fine. Also my given reasons are my reasons. Which is why I stated them. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.51pm)
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18 Jul 19 7.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yes, every year your body's cells aren't the same make up as the previous years but....I rather think you regard you as you.

The make up of Japan hasn't changed in many thousands of years...which is the case for many other countries as well.

Essentially you are stating that you have no interest in any notion of the European or English remaining at the hegemonic identity in the country.

Say If the country sorted out the housing crisis and.....say, rather magically the assimilation aspect of 'different cultures' reduced as an issue....because to put it quite frankly the 'Anglo Saxons' here became the minority.

In that case I take it you'd have no issue with relaxing this immigration policy?

Your interest is purely in cosmetic as you state it....Perhaps it's to reduce the risk to your own identity group of very real and quite severe persecution generations down the line....If I'm right about that I'd agree with you as that's a real concern.

Essentially the impact of my political approach is that the country will reflect that. If you're going to become so niche in your racial outlook on life than even people who agree with you on policy are an issue for you, then fine.

Also my given reasons are my reasons. Which is why I stated them.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.51pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Jul 19 7.58pm
Originally posted by dollardays Essentially the impact of my political approach is that the country will reflect that. If you're going to become so niche in your racial outlook on life than even people who agree with you on policy are an issue for you, then fine. Also my given reasons are my reasons. Which is why I stated them. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.51pm) Would you say all this to a Japanese person then?.....Or the Dalai Lama perhaps?. Those Tibetans is anguish about being wiped out in Tibet. I can imagine this kind of attitude being put towards the Dalai Lama...indeed, similar to the rather amusing conservation the BBC had with him a while back. 'Don't be so racial eh...people won't agree with you...and of course, people agreeing and nodding that's the important thing eh....Chinese is Chinese, you're all the same, it won't matter old Lama me old mucker.' You'll forgive me I'm sure with giving you a working class ending....as I'm sure Librarians don't often say, 'me old mucker'. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 8.01pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Jul 19 7.58pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Also my given reasons are my reasons. Which is why I stated them.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 7.51pm)

Would you say all this to a Japanese person then?.....Or the Dalai Lama perhaps?.

Those Tibetans is anguish about being wiped out in Tibet.

I can imagine this kind of attitude being put towards the Dalai Lama...indeed, similar to the rather amusing conservation the BBC had with him a while back.

'Don't be so racial eh...people won't agree with you...and of course, people agreeing and nodding that's the important thing eh....Chinese is Chinese, you're all the same, it won't matter old Lama me old mucker.'

You'll forgive me I'm sure with giving you a working class ending....as I'm sure Librarians don't often say, 'me old mucker'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 8.01pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jul 19 8.02pm
Originally posted by dollardays None of this has anything to do with my point of view or what I said. I was commenting on a particular comment I view as racist, and also pointing out where I've done exactly the same in the opposite direction with democrats and 'white privilege' views on multiple occasions. Funnily enough you won't be practically haunting me about why I want to argue about that one will you. Or holding Trump's 'four extremists' words at these women to account will you? Primarily because you don't care less about that. But God forbid I have a view of Trumps words. That simply can't be allowed can it and we must talk about something else. There isn't a one direction free for all based on your dislike of certain skin tones. I'll treat people fairly regardless of their race thanks. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 6.34pm) I just don't care about this stuff. It's just politics. There are serious issues to face and we should be focusing on that.
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Originally posted by dollardays

None of this has anything to do with my point of view or what I said. I was commenting on a particular comment I view as racist, and also pointing out where I've done exactly the same in the opposite direction with democrats and 'white privilege' views on multiple occasions. Funnily enough you won't be practically haunting me about why I want to argue about that one will you. Or holding Trump's 'four extremists' words at these women to account will you? Primarily because you don't care less about that. But God forbid I have a view of Trumps words. That simply can't be allowed can it and we must talk about something else.

There isn't a one direction free for all based on your dislike of certain skin tones. I'll treat people fairly regardless of their race thanks.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 6.34pm)

I just don't care about this stuff. It's just politics.

There are serious issues to face and we should be focusing on that.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays Would you say all this to a Japanese person then?.....Or the Dalai Lama perhaps?. Those Tibetans is anguish about being wiped out in Tibet. I can imagine this kind of attitude being put towards the Dalai Lama...indeed, similar to the rather amusing conservation the BBC had with him a while back. 'Don't be so racial eh...people won't agree with you...and of course, people agreeing and nodding that's the important thing eh....Chinese is Chinese, you're all the same, it won't matter old Lama me old mucker.' You'll forgive me I'm sure with giving you a working class ending....as I'm sure Librarians don't often say, 'me old mucker'. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 8.01pm) I offered a point of agreement on policy. Who you get on with, or how you behave is for you. If you're frustrated about something, go see a naughty neighbour and sort yourself out' ol mucker. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 8.23pm)
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18 Jul 19 8.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Would you say all this to a Japanese person then?.....Or the Dalai Lama perhaps?.

Those Tibetans is anguish about being wiped out in Tibet.

I can imagine this kind of attitude being put towards the Dalai Lama...indeed, similar to the rather amusing conservation the BBC had with him a while back.

You'll forgive me I'm sure with giving you a working class ending....as I'm sure Librarians don't often say, 'me old mucker'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jul 2019 8.01pm)

I offered a point of agreement on policy. Who you get on with, or how you behave is for you. If you're frustrated about something, go see a naughty neighbour and sort yourself out' ol mucker.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 8.23pm)

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Stirlingsays 18 Jul 19 8.24pm
Originally posted by dollardays I offered a point of agreement on policy. Who you get on with, or how you behave is for you. If you're frustrated about something, go see a naughty neighbour and sort yourself out' ol mucker. Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 8.23pm) Well, it's an amusing reply....which is always worth something. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Jul 19 8.24pm

Originally posted by dollardays

I offered a point of agreement on policy. Who you get on with, or how you behave is for you. If you're frustrated about something, go see a naughty neighbour and sort yourself out' ol mucker.

Edited by dollardays (18 Jul 2019 8.23pm)

Well, it's an amusing reply....which is always worth something.

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, it's an amusing reply....which is always worth something. I'm glad you think so, ol family values. It's no mooch but it'll have to do.
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18 Jul 19 8.25pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, it's an amusing reply....which is always worth something.

I'm glad you think so, ol family values. It's no mooch but it'll have to do.

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cryrst Online The garden of England 18 Jul 19 8.28pm
On lbc sheila whoever's said that trump was being racist to women of colour. This isnt asking if he was or wasnt but. Does that mean they are coloured women. I thought that was seen to be racist. Why didnt she say african or of Asian extraction. Is it PC to not say specifics. Ie perception is: If you say western you assume white Asian you assume light brown african you assume black and so on. Surely white people are people of colour. Probably get hammered but with our PC world which would be correct. Black eagle clearly is black but if he is reading this would he prefer ,man of colour?
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The garden of England 18 Jul 19 8.28pm

On lbc sheila whoever's said that trump was being racist to women of colour.
This isnt asking if he was or wasnt but.
Does that mean they are coloured women.
I thought that was seen to be racist.
Why didnt she say african or of Asian extraction.
Is it PC to not say specifics.
Ie perception is:
If you say western you assume white
Asian you assume light brown
african you assume black and so on.
Surely white people are people of colour.
Probably get hammered but with our PC world which would be correct.
Black eagle clearly is black but if he is reading this would he prefer ,man of colour?

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Stirlingsays 18 Jul 19 8.31pm
Originally posted by dollardays I'm glad you think so, ol family values. It's no mooch but it'll have to do. Yeah family values....I've done rather well if I say so myself. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

18 Jul 19 8.31pm

Originally posted by dollardays

I'm glad you think so, ol family values. It's no mooch but it'll have to do.

Yeah family values....I've done rather well if I say so myself.

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