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 Sportyteacher  London 24 Jul 17 8.48am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
Exactly ... give her half pay! While we're on the subject of diversity ... where did all the black Daleks go? All this talk of cost-cutting with BBC and Dr Who actually started off years ago e.g. how many viewers knew that K9 was actually a bitch?
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| Sportyteacher London 24 Jul 17 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
All this talk of cost-cutting with BBC and Dr Who actually started off years ago e.g. how many viewers knew that K9 was actually a bitch? Hence the inspiration for the May-bot e.g. 'Strong and stable...strong and stable'; 'coalition of chaos' ; ' let's get on with the job' etc
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| npn Crowborough 24 Jul 17 9.59am |
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I'd be interested to know if the 'big names' on the letter are also in favour of smaller female names earning the same as they do (whether small names get raises or the big names get cuts)? After all, they are doing the same job. The nature of the beast (as in football and all of the entertainment industry) is you are paid what you can convince the employer you're worth - normally a function of what they think you will bring in in terms of viewer figures. I'm not necessarily against the BBC (as effectively a nationalised employer) paying a flat rate instead, but that would mean the big names are more likely to go elsewhere for the cash (again that's fine, most of these are just presenters and I'd have no objection to 'unknowns' presenting BBC programs)
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| DanH SW2 24 Jul 17 10.03am |
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The license fee works out as 40p per day. Insane values for what it offers.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Jul 17 10.16am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Hence the inspiration for the May-bot e.g. 'Strong and stable...strong and stable'; 'coalition of chaos' ; ' let's get on with the job' etc Oh the irony.
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Pierre  Purley 24 Jul 17 10.26am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
Exactly ... give her half pay! While we're on the subject of diversity ... where did all the black Daleks go? Weren't they were all "exterminate-d"
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Jul 17 10.31am |
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Originally posted by npn
The nature of the beast (as in football and all of the entertainment industry) is you are paid what you can convince the employer you're worth - normally a function of what they think you will bring in in terms of viewer figures. If that is true then Peter Capaldi's agent can't be doing a very good job as Dr Who is one of the biggest earners for the BBC as it's sold to many countries yet it's star only earns half what one of the long time actors in Casualty earns
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| npn Crowborough 24 Jul 17 11.23am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If that is true then Peter Capaldi's agent can't be doing a very good job as Dr Who is one of the biggest earners for the BBC as it's sold to many countries yet it's star only earns half what one of the long time actors in Casualty earns Yup, that's where negotiation comes in - I'm sure whether there are other people hammering his door down with other offers of parts comes in to play too, as does any ambition he had to play Dr Who. "it's Dr Who for £200K plus massive exposure or Widow Tw***ey at Cleethorpes for £30K plus a poster on the pier" makes it a lot more attractive
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Jul 17 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
Everyone is paid for by the public (audience). No audience=no job. Same as football players. It's the market price that controls their pay. I don't condone their pay, in fact I find it obscene, but that is what they can earn. I'd be far happier if nurses, doctors, police, firefighters, &etc, got a share of the celebrity wealth, but that is just dreaming. They have no commercial appeal. They merely save lives. The question I think is somewhere between the two. A lot of presenters probably are 'overly competitively paid', after all and I don't think those questions are properly addressed. Is Gary Lineker value for money, or could you find better, for less (the answer is yes, and yes, and probably without a major impact on MOTD viewing figures). I don't think there is too much cost analysis going on here, and maybe that presenters have become seen as being the product, rather than the show, which in turn has an impact on creative product.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Jul 17 12.41pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
The license fee works out as 40p per day. Insane values for what it offers. How much do you pay for ITV? The BBC works out at good value if you are using it often.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Jul 17 12.41pm |
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Originally posted by becky
In reality, is it any worse than some barely literate 20 year old footballer not only being paid millions per annum to kick a bag of wind about, but also picking up huge payments from his cut of any transfers his agent arranges as well. Both lots provide the level of entertainment demanded by their masters/audience, and usually for a limited period. Not good, I agree, but then life never has been fair. No where near as bad, if you ask me, but then why do I get paid more than a nurse, its all to do with supply and demand and the BBC is probably a bit risk shy after s**ting the bed with the replacement of Top Gear. Maybe the problem of the BBC is not using more presenters, and instead relying on the 'image of celebrities' to sell product, rather than the quality of the product. I means seriously, how is Phillip Schofield commanding a top wage, when his star was eclipsed by a f**king glove puppet (at his height of celebrity).
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| Stirlingsays 24 Jul 17 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by npn
I'd be interested to know if the 'big names' on the letter are also in favour of smaller female names earning the same as they do (whether small names get raises or the big names get cuts)? After all, they are doing the same job. The nature of the beast (as in football and all of the entertainment industry) is you are paid what you can convince the employer you're worth - normally a function of what they think you will bring in in terms of viewer figures. I'm not necessarily against the BBC (as effectively a nationalised employer) paying a flat rate instead, but that would mean the big names are more likely to go elsewhere for the cash (again that's fine, most of these are just presenters and I'd have no objection to 'unknowns' presenting BBC programs) I agree, this is how the BBC should see itself and operate. It is in affect no different to the NHS or school and its employees a nurse or teacher and as such they should be paid in a proportionally similar fashion. Nothing wrong with the BBC having an entertainment sector or attitude up to a point but I really don't see the value of it. Compared to Showtime or HBO its adult content is extremely poor.....What happened to Top Gear was unforgivable in my view and an example of how far the BBC has lost sight of the ball....The BBC culture was such as they appeared to be relieved to lose those presenters....Which was madness commercially. I agree with the BBC's future being as a publicly funded institution dedicated to impartial news, radio and a limited outreach after that. In the age of individualism a forced tax on how you reach your media is difficult to justify....especially when it's really not risk free to avoid. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Jul 2017 12.53pm)
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