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Stirlingsays 02 Aug 17 9.02am
Originally posted by matt_himself Michael is probably hanging out with all of his black, evangelical, non-binary gender neutral, gay, disabled friends. All Scottish of course and living here. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

02 Aug 17 9.02am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Michael is probably hanging out with all of his black, evangelical, non-binary gender neutral, gay, disabled friends.

All Scottish of course and living here.

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becky over the moon 02 Aug 17 9.03am
Originally posted by Lombardos barber It's a fair point mate but FGM is far, far worse. I bet most gentiles wish they had been circumcised, makes the old fella look very smart indeed. FGM is barbaric. It is multi-culturalism at its best. Ripping off young girls clitoris.' We should have a day for it. Oh if that were only what they do! In large number of cases they also cut away (glass shard, rusty knife old razor blade are often the tools of the trade) the labia as well and then crudely stitch the remains together, leaving just a very small hole for urine and menstrual fluids to drain out. This is frequently the cause of major infections for these women. It also makes it so much fun for their husbands to be able to 'rip open' the perfect packaging on marriage - so much so, that a midwife friend of mine actually had a husband ask if she could be sewn up again (after they had had to cut her further open to give birth) A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 02 Aug 17 9.03am

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

It's a fair point mate but FGM is far, far worse. I bet most gentiles wish they had been circumcised, makes the old fella look very smart indeed.

FGM is barbaric. It is multi-culturalism at its best. Ripping off young girls clitoris.' We should have a day for it.

Oh if that were only what they do! In large number of cases they also cut away (glass shard, rusty knife old razor blade are often the tools of the trade) the labia as well and then crudely stitch the remains together, leaving just a very small hole for urine and menstrual fluids to drain out. This is frequently the cause of major infections for these women.
It also makes it so much fun for their husbands to be able to 'rip open' the perfect packaging on marriage - so much so, that a midwife friend of mine actually had a husband ask if she could be sewn up again (after they had had to cut her further open to give birth)

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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hedgehog50 Croydon 02 Aug 17 9.04am
Originally posted by nickgusset Who said it was acceptable in this country? Labour Councillor Chika Amadi ? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 02 Aug 17 9.04am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Who said it was acceptable in this country?

Labour Councillor Chika Amadi ?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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legaleagle 02 Aug 17 9.05am
FGM is unacceptable full stop. All I pick up from UpHimself's link is that she said its a cultural practice.It is...though that makes it no less unacceptable. So,to know if what she said about FGM was dodgy,we'd need to more more.Based on her comments about homosexuality,she should (in my view) be expelled,after having rightly first been suspended;its called due process. So,there is a dodgy Labour councillor...which makes Labour and its voters as culpable generally as the Tories and their voters generally for their rogue councillors...viz:28 July, Darwen Borough Council: "The suspension of a Conservative councillor from all committees for allegedly using a ‘homophobic’ and offensive expression on social media has been confirmed". NICE. Edited by legaleagle (02 Aug 2017 9.07am)
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02 Aug 17 9.05am

FGM is unacceptable full stop.

All I pick up from UpHimself's link is that she said its a cultural practice.It is...though that makes it no less unacceptable.

So,to know if what she said about FGM was dodgy,we'd need to more more.Based on her comments about homosexuality,she should (in my view) be expelled,after having rightly first been suspended;its called due process.

So,there is a dodgy Labour councillor...which makes Labour and its voters as culpable generally as the Tories and their voters generally for their rogue councillors...viz:28 July, Darwen Borough Council:

"The suspension of a Conservative councillor from all committees for allegedly using a ‘homophobic’ and offensive expression on social media has been confirmed".

NICE.

Edited by legaleagle (02 Aug 2017 9.07am)

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becky over the moon 02 Aug 17 9.11am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Labour Councillor Chika Amadi ? Labour Councillor and PASTOR! the second job will explain a lot of this woman's attitude......... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 02 Aug 17 9.11am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Labour Councillor Chika Amadi ?

Labour Councillor and PASTOR! the second job will explain a lot of this woman's attitude.........

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Stirlingsays 02 Aug 17 9.12am
Can't we stop calling for the banning of people? It's getting like skittles. It's an opinion....it's the wrong opinion but it's opinion. Banning people just drives these attitudes underground. If the Labour party actually debated the shockingly high level of cultural relativism that exists with its grass roots it might learn a thing or too.....mind you...I suspect in reality they know. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 9.12am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Aug 17 9.12am

Can't we stop calling for the banning of people? It's getting like skittles.

It's an opinion....it's the wrong opinion but it's opinion. Banning people just drives these attitudes underground.

If the Labour party actually debated the shockingly high level of cultural relativism that exists with its grass roots it might learn a thing or too.....mind you...I suspect in reality they know.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 9.12am)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Aug 17 9.16am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Can't we stop calling for the banning of people? It's getting like skittles. It's an opinion....it's the wrong opinion but it's opinion. Banning people just drives these attitudes underground. If the Labour party actually debated the shockingly high level of cultural relativism that exists with its grass roots it might learn a thing or too.....mind you...I suspect in reality they know. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 9.12am) Can you imagine the furore if the party didn't take action? Can you imagine what would be out there if we allowed anything goes speech in the media?
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Shizzlehurst 02 Aug 17 9.16am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Can't we stop calling for the banning of people? It's getting like skittles.

It's an opinion....it's the wrong opinion but it's opinion. Banning people just drives these attitudes underground.

If the Labour party actually debated the shockingly high level of cultural relativism that exists with its grass roots it might learn a thing or too.....mind you...I suspect in reality they know.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 9.12am)

Can you imagine the furore if the party didn't take action?

Can you imagine what would be out there if we allowed anything goes speech in the media?

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matt_himself Matataland 02 Aug 17 9.45am
Originally posted by legaleagle FGM is unacceptable full stop. All I pick up from UpHimself's link is that she said its a cultural practice.It is...though that makes it no less unacceptable. So,to know if what she said about FGM was dodgy,we'd need to more more.Based on her comments about homosexuality,she should (in my view) be expelled,after having rightly first been suspended;its called due process. So,there is a dodgy Labour councillor...which makes Labour and its voters as culpable generally as the Tories and their voters generally for their rogue councillors...viz:28 July, Darwen Borough Council: "The suspension of a Conservative councillor from all committees for allegedly using a ‘homophobic’ and offensive expression on social media has been confirmed". NICE. Edited by legaleagle (02 Aug 2017 9.07am) So two wrongs make a right, do they Rumpole? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 02 Aug 17 9.45am

Originally posted by legaleagle

FGM is unacceptable full stop.

All I pick up from UpHimself's link is that she said its a cultural practice.It is...though that makes it no less unacceptable.

"The suspension of a Conservative councillor from all committees for allegedly using a ‘homophobic’ and offensive expression on social media has been confirmed".

NICE.

Edited by legaleagle (02 Aug 2017 9.07am)

So two wrongs make a right, do they Rumpole?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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jamiemartin721 Reading 02 Aug 17 9.47am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Support for non medically required circumcision is wrong in my view. The fact that male non-medical circumcision is not illegal in the UK is a disgrace.....Female circumcision rightly is illegal and is even worse in my view but regardless both should be illegal. It's yet another example of how males are treated compared to females.....apparently on girls it's called 'child abuse' but on boys...blah blah blah usual BS. Personally I regard chopping off people's body bits to suit some religious or cultural practice as obscene and unacceptable. Cultural relativism is a disease of the left and appeasement right and I've always regarded it as dangerous nonsense in many forms. I am not against this view being aired however and an argument made. She has a right to say it and it for it to be debated. In a democracy the voice of the majority decides. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 1.09am) Pretty much my view entirely. Mutilation for 'cultural or religious reasons' on people incapable of giving consent is entirely unacceptable and a form of abuse. Now if grown adults want to be cutting themselves up and about - that I guess is upto them. But its absurd to ever defend the rights of adults to cause harm directly to children. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 02 Aug 17 9.47am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Support for non medically required circumcision is wrong in my view. The fact that male non-medical circumcision is not illegal in the UK is a disgrace.....Female circumcision rightly is illegal and is even worse in my view but regardless both should be illegal.

It's yet another example of how males are treated compared to females.....apparently on girls it's called 'child abuse' but on boys...blah blah blah usual BS.

Personally I regard chopping off people's body bits to suit some religious or cultural practice as obscene and unacceptable. Cultural relativism is a disease of the left and appeasement right and I've always regarded it as dangerous nonsense in many forms.

I am not against this view being aired however and an argument made. She has a right to say it and it for it to be debated.

In a democracy the voice of the majority decides.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 1.09am)

Pretty much my view entirely. Mutilation for 'cultural or religious reasons' on people incapable of giving consent is entirely unacceptable and a form of abuse.

Now if grown adults want to be cutting themselves up and about - that I guess is upto them. But its absurd to ever defend the rights of adults to cause harm directly to children.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stirlingsays 02 Aug 17 9.52am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Pretty much my view entirely. Mutilation for 'cultural or religious reasons' on people incapable of giving consent is entirely unacceptable and a form of abuse. Now if grown adults want to be cutting themselves up and about - that I guess is upto them. But its absurd to ever defend the rights of adults to cause harm directly to children. Seconded....we live in a crazy world where God wants your foreskin or part of your clitoris before he'll let you play in his funtime mansion. Or even worse it's for aesthetic reasons......Or to make the female's experience of sex so dismal that she isn't interested in it. It's horrible, horrible. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 9.53am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

02 Aug 17 9.52am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Pretty much my view entirely. Mutilation for 'cultural or religious reasons' on people incapable of giving consent is entirely unacceptable and a form of abuse.

Now if grown adults want to be cutting themselves up and about - that I guess is upto them. But its absurd to ever defend the rights of adults to cause harm directly to children.

Seconded....we live in a crazy world where God wants your foreskin or part of your clitoris before he'll let you play in his funtime mansion.

Or even worse it's for aesthetic reasons......Or to make the female's experience of sex so dismal that she isn't interested in it.

It's horrible, horrible.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 9.53am)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 02 Aug 17 9.53am
Originally posted by Lombardos barber It's a fair point mate but FGM is far, far worse. I bet most gentiles wish they had been circumcised, makes the old fella look very smart indeed. FGM is barbaric. It is multi-culturalism at its best. Ripping off young girls clitoris.' We should have a day for it. Which is why FGM is a crime in the UK, and circumcision isn't. That said its adults committing a physical mutilation on children, for non-medical reasons. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 02 Aug 17 9.53am

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

It's a fair point mate but FGM is far, far worse. I bet most gentiles wish they had been circumcised, makes the old fella look very smart indeed.

FGM is barbaric. It is multi-culturalism at its best. Ripping off young girls clitoris.' We should have a day for it.

Which is why FGM is a crime in the UK, and circumcision isn't. That said its adults committing a physical mutilation on children, for non-medical reasons.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 02 Aug 17 9.54am
Originally posted by matt_himself So two wrongs make a right, do they Rumpole? can it be filed under 'this is what is simmering beneath the facade'?
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Shizzlehurst 02 Aug 17 9.54am

Originally posted by matt_himself

So two wrongs make a right, do they Rumpole?

can it be filed under 'this is what is simmering beneath the facade'?

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