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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Aug 17 10.00pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Knowledge is knowledge. It may well not always appear to help (you) in this day and age but as history shows, it will always be of use for future generations. I'm not sure big bang theory will be of practical use. It might get future generations closer to understanding the nature of existence which would be reward in itself of course.
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02 Aug 17 10.00pm

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Originally posted by .TUX.

Knowledge is knowledge.
It may well not always appear to help (you) in this day and age but as history shows, it will always be of use for future generations.

I'm not sure big bang theory will be of practical use. It might get future generations closer to understanding the nature of existence which would be reward in itself of course.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 02 Aug 17 10.05pm
Bloody Tories - Big Bangs with no planning or thought about the effect on the environment. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 02 Aug 17 10.05pm

Bloody Tories - Big Bangs with no planning or thought about the effect on the environment.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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davenotamonkey 02 Aug 17 10.08pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I'm not sure big bang theory will be of practical use. It might get future generations closer to understanding the nature of existence which would be reward in itself of course. Not true. To understand the universe as it was at a very early stage, you need to access energy regimes that can only be reached with particle accelerators like the LHC. The spin-offs from CERN et al. have been immense. Including, but not limited to the World wide Web. Development in superconducting magnets, required for these types of experiments also had applications in, for example, fusion generators.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not sure big bang theory will be of practical use. It might get future generations closer to understanding the nature of existence which would be reward in itself of course.

Not true. To understand the universe as it was at a very early stage, you need to access energy regimes that can only be reached with particle accelerators like the LHC. The spin-offs from CERN et al. have been immense. Including, but not limited to the World wide Web.

Development in superconducting magnets, required for these types of experiments also had applications in, for example, fusion generators.

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.TUX. 02 Aug 17 10.11pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Bloody Tories - Big Bangs with no planning or thought about the effect on the environment. Why do you contaminate every thread with politics? Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

02 Aug 17 10.11pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Bloody Tories - Big Bangs with no planning or thought about the effect on the environment.

Why do you contaminate every thread with politics?

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hedgehog50 Croydon 02 Aug 17 10.15pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Why do you contaminate every thread with politics? Merely a feeble attempt at a joke. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 02 Aug 17 10.15pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Why do you contaminate every thread with politics?

Merely a feeble attempt at a joke.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Ray in Houston Houston 02 Aug 17 10.15pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Not true. To understand the universe as it was at a very early stage, you need to access energy regimes that can only be reached with particle accelerators like the LHC. The spin-offs from CERN et al. have been immense. Including, but not limited to the World wide Web. Development in superconducting magnets, required for these types of experiments also had applications in, for example, fusion generators. The Chinese just "teleported" a proton from earth to space. Now, they didn't actually teleport it - like Blake's 7 teleport it - but they made the same proton appear in two different places at the same time. The near-term benefit of this is for basically instantaneous internet. Expect to see this deployed first - as is all new internet technology - on a p* site, but the obvious advantage for communication and command & control applications is obvious when there is literally zero lag on internet connections. Next up, teleporting that pizza! Edited by Ray in Houston (02 Aug 2017 10.16pm) We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just waing with a football.
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Development in superconducting magnets, required for these types of experiments also had applications in, for example, fusion generators.

The Chinese just "teleported" a proton from earth to space. Now, they didn't actually teleport it - like Blake's 7 teleport it - but they made the same proton appear in two different places at the same time.

The near-term benefit of this is for basically instantaneous internet. Expect to see this deployed first - as is all new internet technology - on a p*** site, but the obvious advantage for communication and command & control applications is obvious when there is literally zero lag on internet connections.

Next up, teleporting that pizza!

Edited by Ray in Houston (02 Aug 2017 10.16pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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.TUX. 02 Aug 17 10.19pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I'm not sure big bang theory will be of practical use. It might get future generations closer to understanding the nature of existence which would be reward in itself of course. I get your stance, but you and i will never know. I'm pretty sure the effort won't be wasted though. Oh to have a Tardis! Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

02 Aug 17 10.19pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not sure big bang theory will be of practical use. It might get future generations closer to understanding the nature of existence which would be reward in itself of course.

I get your stance, but you and i will never know.
I'm pretty sure the effort won't be wasted though. Oh to have a Tardis!

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Ray in Houston Houston 02 Aug 17 10.22pm
Originally posted by .TUX. I get your stance, but you and i will never know. I'm pretty sure the effort won't be wasted though. Oh to have a Tardis! I juuuuust about remember man walking on the moon. I was 4 in 1969, and I remember my parents make me watch something on a tiny black and white TV. I am concerned that I may not live long enough to see man walk on Mars, because I'd really like that. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Ray in Houston

Houston 02 Aug 17 10.22pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

I get your stance, but you and i will never know.
I'm pretty sure the effort won't be wasted though. Oh to have a Tardis!

I juuuuust about remember man walking on the moon. I was 4 in 1969, and I remember my parents make me watch something on a tiny black and white TV. I am concerned that I may not live long enough to see man walk on Mars, because I'd really like that.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Bekken 02 Aug 17 10.37pm
I find the idea of space fascinating, I'm not sure of the Big Bang theory because I'm not sure one large explosion gives birth to billions upon billions of stars which stretch over millions and millions of miles but something but the planets there... finding the answer would prove science right but will it do away with religion? What is the void we find ourselves in? Where is the edge of space and what does it look like on the other side if you could see through? Are we just pawns in an alien snow globe? How did so much water find its way to earth? Is the centre of the earth really hotter than the surface of the Sun, or is it hollow like some have suggested? What's on the dark side of the moon and why haven't we been back? What are black holes and will time travel using them ever be a thing? Is the earth flat and is everything we've ever been told in the story books a lie? Is Nibiru coming to get us? Stay tuned and keep your eyes to the sky lol.....
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02 Aug 17 10.37pm

I find the idea of space fascinating, I'm not sure of the Big Bang theory because I'm not sure one large explosion gives birth to billions upon billions of stars which stretch over millions and millions of miles but something but the planets there... finding the answer would prove science right but will it do away with religion?

What is the void we find ourselves in? Where is the edge of space and what does it look like on the other side if you could see through? Are we just pawns in an alien snow globe? How did so much water find its way to earth? Is the centre of the earth really hotter than the surface of the Sun, or is it hollow like some have suggested? What's on the dark side of the moon and why haven't we been back? What are black holes and will time travel using them ever be a thing? Is the earth flat and is everything we've ever been told in the story books a lie? Is Nibiru coming to get us?

Stay tuned and keep your eyes to the sky lol.....

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thebob Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 02 Aug 17 10.40pm
Originally posted by sitdownstandup theory... Do you believe in it or not? The difficult part is the word "believe". If you are of the opinion that data is the only evidence that should be evaluated to reach a conclusion. And that all relevant data needs to be considered, then the theory appears to be quite robust. If you are of the opinion that "belief" is just conjured up from your own head, and evidence is then sought that supports your belief, then almost anything goes, and you are probably also a climate change denier, user of "alternative" medicine, anti vaccine, and also think that "organic" food means something.. You also are either religious or hold other "belief" based ideas. There must be a logical fallacy there somewhere. Argument from ignorance? I can't understand it so it can't be true?
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Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 02 Aug 17 10.40pm

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

theory... Do you believe in it or not?

The difficult part is the word "believe".

If you are of the opinion that data is the only evidence that should be evaluated to reach a conclusion. And that all relevant data needs to be considered, then the theory appears to be quite robust.

If you are of the opinion that "belief" is just conjured up from your own head, and evidence is then sought that supports your belief, then almost anything goes, and you are probably also a climate change denier, user of "alternative" medicine, anti vaccine, and also think that "organic" food means something.. You also are either religious or hold other "belief" based ideas.

There must be a logical fallacy there somewhere. Argument from ignorance? I can't understand it so it can't be true?

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Ray in Houston Houston 02 Aug 17 10.50pm
Originally posted by thebob The difficult part is the word "believe". Science is ever-evolving; whenever new evidence comes along that disproves previously held science, the new evidence is adopted. Rinse, repeat. "Belief" tends to stay rigid and mostly unaffected by improving knowledge and understanding. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Houston 02 Aug 17 10.50pm

Originally posted by thebob

The difficult part is the word "believe".

Science is ever-evolving; whenever new evidence comes along that disproves previously held science, the new evidence is adopted. Rinse, repeat.

"Belief" tends to stay rigid and mostly unaffected by improving knowledge and understanding.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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.TUX. 02 Aug 17 10.54pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston Science is ever-evolving; whenever new evidence comes along that disproves previously held science, the new evidence is adopted. Rinse, repeat. "Belief" tends to stay rigid and mostly unaffected by improving knowledge and understanding. Well said. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

02 Aug 17 10.54pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Science is ever-evolving; whenever new evidence comes along that disproves previously held science, the new evidence is adopted. Rinse, repeat.

"Belief" tends to stay rigid and mostly unaffected by improving knowledge and understanding.

Well said.

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