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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Aug 17 11.27am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by OneWayTicketToMars

You have to admire the guts of FDB and SP to turn around it around from a club that keeps fighting relegation every season to a club and a team that can hold there own and can push on and mix it up a bit in the top 10.
I for one will give them the time that is obviously needed to do that ... at least FDB will give the most promising youngsters a chance ... thats the lifeblood of this club.
We will start winning games then all will be rosy.

We cannot introduce untried youngsters when we are fighting to survive or fighting to get a foothold in the PL.We can only afford this luxury through a position of relative strength.The PL is very unforgiving.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 21 Aug 17 11.28am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We cannot introduce untried youngsters when we are fighting to survive or fighting to get a foothold in the PL.We can only afford this luxury through a position of relative strength.The PL is very unforgiving.

Agreed.

 


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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Aug 17 11.34am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

And just to add to my previous post by the time Mutch and Sako leave we will have spent around/wasted £20million on them in total. And that's just two players costs out of many who are surplus or just deadwood.


Agreed, hence the need to bring kids through. it wasn't too long ago that Wilf was still on £5k a week...prior to going to Mancs, and then he only went on to £30k a week.

we seem to be one of the few clubs that are adhering to FFP. The authorities definitely need to deal with those that aren't PSG, Barca and Real especially.

If what I've heard is correct they've found a loophole that is how they're now able to blast others out of the water; clever though it is, it's morale abhorrent!

It's getting to the stage that where the most important member of the squad is an Accountant!

 


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View Tommyp151211's Profile Tommyp151211 Flag 21 Aug 17 11.36am Send a Private Message to Tommyp151211 Add Tommyp151211 as a friend

If the youngsters are seen as good enough then they are entitled to be picked and play just as much as anybody else in the squad.


 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Aug 17 11.40am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We cannot introduce untried youngsters when we are fighting to survive or fighting to get a foothold in the PL.We can only afford this luxury through a position of relative strength.The PL is very unforgiving.


You say that, but with Ward being targeted and showing no signs of improvement i'd certainly like to see Wan Bisaka given a chance. Being young isnt an issue...we had 2 x 19yr olds playing on Saturday...being good enough is!

 


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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 21 Aug 17 11.42am Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

We are not penniless but we do need to be prudent.

1) American money - we do not have £50m sitting in our bank. This money has been earmarked for the ground based on the last accounts I've seen it has yet to be paid to the club

2) the last accounts I've seen (FA cup year) we made a loss of £5m partly based on a lower league position. Cabeye purchase and wages would have contributed to this

3) since then we've spent a fortune on Benteke and his wages are massive

4) Sam then spent big in January - I don't think this outlay was budgeted for earlier in the season

5) the high wage bill with people on long term contracts isn't helping. Pardew/Parish have given long term contacts to people like Punch and Dann at 29 so they will still be on our books at 34. Pardew signings Chungy/Sako and Mutch are costing us c£150k per week and this doesn't include transfer fees (not Sako).

So whilst all is not doom and gloom you only need to look at say QPR to see how overspending can damage the club long term.

 

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View PZ Eagle's Profile PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 21 Aug 17 12.13pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550


You say that, but with Ward being targeted and showing no signs of improvement i'd certainly like to see Wan Bisaka given a chance. Being young isnt an issue...we had 2 x 19yr olds playing on Saturday...being good enough is!

Our, and England's arguably, best left back was Kenny Samson who was playing for Palace at 16 yrs old. Howard Kendall was even younger when playing in an FA Cup Final for PNE.

If they are good enough age shouldn't matter.

 


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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 21 Aug 17 12.20pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

ive been saying for a while now, that all these players weve wasted millions on over the last few years like guerdioura, mariappa, campbell, mutch, sako, chungy, adebayor to name a few. when you weight up time on the pitch & what theyve actually added to the performances we should have been bringing thru kids on 10% of their wages to be "squad/bench places", and i hope this is the way we go moving forward.

its all good saying lets sell chungy/sako/jimmy mac but i bet their wages average out north of 40k a week and i wouldnt blame them if they didnt move for a paycut as i wouldnt if i was them. some team, probably championship will take those 2 on, jimmy mac good enough for PL team.

like kermit said earlier, sako & mutch will have cost the club over £20m for what? if schlupp stays with us for the duration of his contract he will have cost the club in excess of £30m just take these numbers in fro a minute and realise were punching above our weight

I get that, which is all the more reason to get rid of them and move to a more sustainable model. Hence the reason I like the appointment of FDB, as he has an excellent record developing young players. That, for me, is the long term strategy the club needs.

 


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View OneWayTicketToMars's Profile OneWayTicketToMars Flag Selsdon 21 Aug 17 12.22pm Send a Private Message to OneWayTicketToMars Add OneWayTicketToMars as a friend

As my previous posts states and further thought about the youngsters.

Why spend more money on a player when a youngster who FDB thinks is good enough can play and prove to be a gem.
We need to bring them on to the first team and get them playing ... also on the plus side if they turn out to be gems and they are eligible to play for England ... happy days all round.

 


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View Tommyp151211's Profile Tommyp151211 Flag 21 Aug 17 12.56pm Send a Private Message to Tommyp151211 Add Tommyp151211 as a friend

Regarding selling players -

Cabaye is being linked with AC Milan in the Italian press.

 

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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 21 Aug 17 1.43pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

You seriously come out talking about a top ten finish.....? I'd sign immediately for staying up as a scenario where some of out Key players , namely Benteke and Wilf, are out for longer periods could easily lead to us being in serious trouble.

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Originally posted by Palace4861

Agree with OP. We are in this position due to bad panic signings when previous managers and Parish spend loads on average championship players giving them large contracts to get them in .
I like all Palace fans will be forever indebted to Parish and others for saving us in 2010 but is he out of his depth in the football world . FdB and SP have said give youth a chance . Getting in two players under 21 in on loan sums up our youth policy . The likes of Mutch Lee Sako and maybe Kelly will get no playing time in this team but are holding us to ransom . Can you blame them with the contracts Parish has given them . We need three or four in of PL quality not championship . It's time to fulfill out potential and get up the table to at least a top ten finish


 

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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 21 Aug 17 1.49pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Disagree completely!
And yes you carefully mention "untried" but last Saturday our 2 YOUNG loan signings were once again the best players in our team. By some distance I would dare say. Its quality and maturity that counts and I see players in their mid and late twenties make mistakes that a decent 18 year old would not think about making as he would just naturally not make them.

Originally posted by Willo

We cannot introduce untried youngsters when we are fighting to survive or fighting to get a foothold in the PL.We can only afford this luxury through a position of relative strength.The PL is very unforgiving.


 

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