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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 30 Aug 17 10.04am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm glad you find it funny. I think it's disgraceful and unacceptable.

Yet you still went to the football in the 70's and 80's when loads more police were attacked EVERY weekend and as they are today on Friday and Saturday nights all over.

 


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View eagleboi's Profile eagleboi Flag Catford 30 Aug 17 10.10am Send a Private Message to eagleboi Add eagleboi as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Yet you still went to the football in the 70's and 80's when loads more police were attacked EVERY weekend and as they are today on Friday and Saturday nights all over.

^^This with bells on it

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Aug 17 10.13am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Yet you still went to the football in the 70's and 80's when loads more police were attacked EVERY weekend and as they are today on Friday and Saturday nights all over.

A ridiculous comparison but note that there is far less violence now because the authorities clamped down after multiple deaths and enormous costs and use of man power.

You would justify anything to fly your little flag.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 10.38am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A ridiculous comparison but note that there is far less violence now because the authorities clamped down after multiple deaths and enormous costs and use of man power.

You would justify anything to fly your little flag.

Glastonbury had a higher arrest rate than Notting Hill. But that's mainly white so you can ignore that.

 

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wordup Flag 30 Aug 17 10.43am

Finally. I knew HOL wouldn't let me down!

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 17 10.49am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Glastonbury had a higher arrest rate than Notting Hill. But that's mainly white so you can ignore that.

I have read that at Glastobury there were 71 arrests which compares with 300 arrests at the NHC.

At the NHC, some 28 Police were injured, they were spat at, bitten, had acid thrown at them, even blood and were slashed with broken bottles.They arrested people who had hammers,knives etc.

Not aware of all the details about incidents at Glastonbury, just asking the question whether the Police received similar treatment and whether offensive weapons were seized.

An equivelance has been made between the NHC and Glastonbury - just trying to ascertain the facts.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 10.53am)

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 30 Aug 17 10.52am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by wordup

Finally. I knew HOL wouldn't let me down!

Indeed, I'm amazed it took so long.

Now, how long until the MOBO awards?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 10.57am

Originally posted by Willo

I have read that at Glastobury there were 71 arrests which compares with 300 arrests at the NHC.

At the NHC, some 28 Police were injured, they were spat at, bitten, had acid thrown at them, even blood and were slashed with broken bottles.They arrested people who had hammers,knives etc.

Not aware of all the details about incidents at Glastonbury, just asking the question whether the Police received similar treatment and whether offensive weapons were seized.

An equivelance has been made between the NHC and Glastonbury - just trying to ascertain the facts.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 10.53am)

Glasto. 71 out of 200000 people or around one every 2800 . NHC 300 arrests out of 2000000 attendees = roughly one every 6660.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 17 11.03am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Glasto. 71 out of 200000 people or around one every 2800 . NHC 300 arrests out of 2000000 attendees = roughly one every 6660.

One can deal with ratios and draw what conclusions one likes but maybe they don't tell a true story.

What about the other questions that I posed regarding Police injuries, weapons etc ? Are you suggesting that the disorder at Glastonbury was an equivelance to that at NHC but because of the 'Ratios' it was perhaps greater ?

Just trying to understand whether the argument is that as proportionately more people behave themselves at the NHC that at Glastonbury the violence at the NHC is actually not that significant.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 11.06am)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 11.09am

Originally posted by Willo

One can deal with ratios and draw what conclusions one likes but maybe they don't tell a true story.

What about the other questions that I posed regarding Police injuries, weapons etc ? Are you suggesting that the disorder at Glastonbury was an equivelance to that at NHC but because of the 'Ratios' it was perhaps greater ?

Just trying to understand whether the argument is that as proportionately more people behave themselves at the NHC that at Glastonbury the violence at the NHC is actually not that significant.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 11.06am)

Arrests at Notting Hill were down on last year.

Don't worry about the coming together of many people of different cultures in a carnival celebration. Just focus on something that fits a different agenda.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 17 11.16am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Arrests at Notting Hill were down on last year.

Don't worry about the coming together of many people of different cultures in a carnival celebration. Just focus on something that fits a different agenda.

Oh well arrests were down so one can gloss over the violence which occured, the Police who were subjected to abhorrent treatment and the knives,hammers etc which were seized.

I believe in the main people recognise the coming together of cultures etc and don't have an issue with this but they cannot ignore the downsides caused by unruly elements who infiltrate the 'Carnival celebration'.

Just like the 'Rent-a mob' left-wing protestors who have heaped violence on their 'Anti-Capitalist marches etc etc etc. Didn't see too many black people amongst them so such disreputable behaviour is not just confined to blacks - I have no agenda against white, black, yellow, green purple etc etc, I judge people not by the colour of the skin but by them as individuals.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 11.27am)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 11.29am

Originally posted by Willo

I believe in the main people recognise the coming together of cultures etc and don't have an issue with this but they cannot ignore the downsides caused by unruly elements who infiltrate the 'Carnival celebration'.

Just like the 'Rent-a mob' left-wing protestors who have heaped violence on their 'Anti-Capitalist marches etc etc etc. Didn't see too many black people amongst them.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 11.17am)

I think you are overstating this somewhat. Off the top of your head willo, can you come up with more than 3 examples.

Why aren't you complaining about the death of a young man at Reading festival?


Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the unruly element. Not in the slightest.

Did you go on any of the anti capitalist marches? Which ones?
Because you sure as heII wouldn't get an idea of the racial demographics on such a march from the scant tv and media coverage such marches

Having been on many marches (none of which were billed as being anti capitalist ) I can assure you there is a good ethnic mix.

I look forward to your response.


 

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