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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Yep. I live about a mile away from Buffalo Bayou and Studemont / I-10 [ [Link] ], but was miraculously - by an inch, maybe - spared from getting water in my house. Got out of the house yesterday (Tuesday) for the first time since Friday afternoon. Went scavenging for supplies to take to the evacuation shelters and helped out as best I could.

Edited by Ray in Houston (30 Aug 2017 5.57pm)

Good that you are safe. The wife's family farm was pretty badly damaged by the winds, they are close to Rockport where the Hurricane came ashore. They all evacuated and are safe, but a number of buildings were blown down, and there is extensive damage.

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Yep. I live about a mile away from Buffalo Bayou and Studemont / I-10 [ [Link] ], but was miraculously - by an inch, maybe - spared from getting water in my house. Got out of the house yesterday (Tuesday) for the first time since Friday afternoon. Went scavenging for supplies to take to the evacuation shelters and helped out as best I could.

Edited by Ray in Houston (30 Aug 2017 5.57pm)

Ouch. Yeah sorry, was an inappropriate time to ask something I have been wondering for a while. Good luck sir.

 




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legaleagle Flag 30 Aug 17 8.26pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Yep. I live about a mile away from Buffalo Bayou and Studemont / I-10 [ [Link] ], but was miraculously - by an inch, maybe - spared from getting water in my house. Got out of the house yesterday (Tuesday) for the first time since Friday afternoon. Went scavenging for supplies to take to the evacuation shelters and helped out as best I could.

Edited by Ray in Houston (30 Aug 2017 5.57pm)

Was thinking about you when watching the news yesterday.Glad to hear you are ok.

Has I-10 been closed?

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 31 Aug 17 7.25am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

I'm sure all that TV coverage of people in Houston escaping the 10 feet of water in their houses is very inconvenient.

Also, the quote is "Houston we've had a problem." So annoying when people (everyone) get it wrong.

I live on the edge of the Somerset Levels, so actually watched the flooding unfolding with great sympathy - although I doubt US TV covers UK regional problems, so check out Somerset 2013/14........we know what flooding's all about down y'ere

and my comment was never meant to be a quote - note the punctuation used.

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

I'm sure all that TV coverage of people in Houston escaping the 10 feet of water in their houses is very inconvenient.

Also, the quote is "Houston we've had a problem." So annoying when people (everyone) get it wrong.

It's not that the coverage is seen as inconvenient by anyone, it's the people who want to be outraged by absolutely everything in a reverse top trumps kind of way.

"Why isn't the flooding in Nepal and India getting as much coverage?" Because we are a western country and we mainly report western news. I'm sure in Asia there is more focus on those places than Texas but any opportunity to have a moan.

 


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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 31 Aug 17 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Well, our neighbours to the east - Beaumont an Port Arthur - got slammed and Harvey is going to drift inland and cause a s***-ton of flooding to any low-lying areas it comes across for a few more days yet.

A chemical plant blew up last night having lost power, back-up power and emergency refrigeration a couple of days ago. It's now burning who knows what* and sending toxic smoke into the local atmosphere.

* Texas' response to the explosion in the town of West a few years back was to remove the requirement that chemical facilities tell the locals - including first responders - what they're cooking. Arkema - the plant owner - is still keeping mum on what we're dealing with. Because...freedom?

Meanwhile, Irma is out there in the Atlantic and appears - albeit from long range - to have the Gulf Coast in her sights.

I know the world continues to turn/burn and s*** is happening elsewhere; we're still at war in Afghanistan and Iraq FFS! But this is a serious national story in the US at least, especially as it's climate change walking up a punching us in the face.

Edited by Ray in Houston (31 Aug 2017 4.42pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Aug 17 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

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Please do not infer the manager is bollocks after only three games because they may share one or two traits with the Holloways and Burleys and Freedmans even if it is true.

Ah Kermy, you are so predictable.

You really should get some cream for it you know.

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Well, our neighbours to the east - Beaumont an Port Arthur - got slammed and Harvey is going to drift inland and cause a s***-ton of flooding to any low-lying areas it comes across for a few more days yet.

A chemical plant blew up last night having lost power, back-up power and emergency refrigeration a couple of days ago. It's now burning who knows what* and sending toxic smoke into the local atmosphere.

* Texas' response to the explosion in the town of West a few years back was to remove the requirement that chemical facilities tell the locals - including first responders - what they're cooking. Arkema - the plant owner - is still keeping mum on what we're dealing with. Because...freedom?

Meanwhile, Irma is out there in the Atlantic and appears - albeit from long range - to have the Gulf Coast in her sights.

I know the world continues to turn/burn and s*** is happening elsewhere; we're still at war in Afghanistan and Iraq FFS! But this is a serious national story in the US at least, especially as it's climate change walking up a punching us in the face.

Edited by Ray in Houston (31 Aug 2017 4.42pm)

Good luck R this can really be put down to climate change? Perhaps then change of heart over the issue?

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Good luck R this can really be put down to climate change? Perhaps then change of heart over the issue?

I doubt there will be a change of heart from those who deny climate change. However, this bears all the hallmarks of a storm that was far worse and for more badly behaved due to climate change. It sped up as it reached the coast (weird) and went from a Tropical Storm to a Cat 4 hurricane in 44 hours (crazy). Because warmer seas mean more moisture in the atmosphere, it had far more water to collect and dump on its way.

It's not like this storm doesn't happen without climate change; but climate change definitely made this storm far worse that it would have been otherwise. We're talking about a 1/2 degree increase in sea temperature made Harvey the biggest rain-maker ever to hit the US, instead of just a weekend of bad weather for southeast Texas. Sea level rises renders existing sea walls etc. as inadequate as the storm surge ahead of such storms are increased. There's a multitude of ways that climate change ramps up individual weather events, and things like Harvey are a manifestation of those things in perfect combination.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 31 Aug 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

I doubt there will be a change of heart from those who deny climate change. However, this bears all the hallmarks of a storm that was far worse and for more badly behaved due to climate change. It sped up as it reached the coast (weird) and went from a Tropical Storm to a Cat 4 hurricane in 44 hours (crazy). Because warmer seas mean more moisture in the atmosphere, it had far more water to collect and dump on its way.

It's not like this storm doesn't happen without climate change; but climate change definitely made this storm far worse that it would have been otherwise. We're talking about a 1/2 degree increase in sea temperature made Harvey the biggest rain-maker ever to hit the US, instead of just a weekend of bad weather for southeast Texas. Sea level rises renders existing sea walls etc. as inadequate as the storm surge ahead of such storms are increased. There's a multitude of ways that climate change ramps up individual weather events, and things like Harvey are a manifestation of those things in perfect combination.

Bad floods in India too. Over 1000 dead.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Aug 17 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Bad floods in India too. Over 1000 dead.

[Link]

You have no idea whether the storm was exacerbated by global warming and nor do I. Furthermore, you don't know the major causes of global warming and nor do I. We rely on scientists to tell us their best theory. Opinions differ.
In an interglacial period, temperatures will rise, that much, anyone can figure out. How much humans have contributed to it is another matter.
It's easy to make a one sided argument.

 

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I'm hoping you can swim Ray.

Maybe we should launch an urgent appeal to get Ray some life preservers.

 


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