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chateauferret 07 Nov 17 12.03am
Originally posted by Jacey Having scored a hatful of goals for his Turkish side ,since his move to us failed to materialize, now admits that while he desperately wanted to join us last window until SP 's screwed up a done deal at the last minute, apparently quibbling over an extended payment,that with the benefit of hindsight, his not signing was a GREAT ESCAPE!! Looks like Spurs are now his preferred destination. Some you win,some you lose,eh SP. Sounds like the kind of player that would love to jump on a bandwagon but isn't interested in actually making it happen. Had he joined us and actually turned up, would we be bottom? Probably not. Edited by chateauferret (07 Nov 2017 12.04am) ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

07 Nov 17 12.03am

Originally posted by Jacey

Having scored a hatful of goals for his Turkish side ,since his move to us failed to materialize, now admits that while he desperately wanted to join us last window until SP 's screwed up a done deal at the last minute, apparently quibbling over an extended payment,that with the benefit of hindsight, his not signing was a GREAT ESCAPE!!

Looks like Spurs are now his preferred destination.
Some you win,some you lose,eh SP.

Sounds like the kind of player that would love to jump on a bandwagon but isn't interested in actually making it happen. Had he joined us and actually turned up, would we be bottom? Probably not.

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thai-eagle chiang mai 07 Nov 17 2.21am
Forget this guy, with his previous goal scoring he'll look elsewhere if he's to leave present clubin January.
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thai-eagle

chiang mai 07 Nov 17 2.21am

Forget this guy, with his previous goal scoring he'll look elsewhere if he's to leave present clubin January.

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Mr Palaceman 07 Nov 17 3.20am
Just maybe we dodged a bullet too. On to the next one... "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead" Stan Laurel
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Mr Palaceman

07 Nov 17 3.20am

Just maybe we dodged a bullet too. On to the next one...

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

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Eaglecoops CR3 07 Nov 17 4.55pm
Who really wants a player with that attitude. All of a sudden he thinks he's Billy Big Bollards because he's banged in a couple of goals. He obviously likes bench warming because if he goes to Spurs, that's what he will be doing unless of course Spurs are looking to offload a few in the window. (we'll take Son if they don't want him).
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Eaglecoops

CR3 07 Nov 17 4.55pm

Who really wants a player with that attitude. All of a sudden he thinks he's Billy Big Bollards because he's banged in a couple of goals. He obviously likes bench warming because if he goes to Spurs, that's what he will be doing unless of course Spurs are looking to offload a few in the window. (we'll take Son if they don't want him).

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 07 Nov 17 7.04pm
Originally posted by Jacey Having scored a hatful of goals for his Turkish side ,since his move to us failed to materialize, now admits that while he desperately wanted to join us last window until SP 's screwed up a done deal at the last minute, apparently quibbling over an extended payment,that with the benefit of hindsight, his not signing was a GREAT ESCAPE!! Looks like Spurs are now his preferred destination. Some you win,some you lose,eh SP. Yeah but is that actually what he said.... that's how it's being reported but I read it slightly different. More along the lines of he was gutted the move broke down but that in hindsight it's not the end of the world. As he's now scoring goals in the champions league. Who would be sad about that??? The article is clearly click bait. If you link through to the Turkish interview and then translate that you get a fairly different view of what he was saying. Babylon translation: Besiktas'a very successful performance of scorer player Cenk Tosun BeİN Sports'a stunning statements found. Cenk Tosun'the descriptions said; 'go to Vice President goes to the course in the course at the moment I would stay for years' 'i would go to the Vice President of the course in the course at the cal Besiktas'i would stay in for years to come. I am, Besiktas'i am in but i want this season in the championship. Negredo has managed to very large jobs and egosu zero is a man with no problem with the us. 'Crystal Palace is so good returned to the post and transfer' 'Too large numbers commissioners. It was very proud to be so. Our interest in this job for me i am very pleased to be remembered. Crystal Palace'la name is is remembered. But he returned to the A-pillar Returned to the post and also good so. Where the mold leagues and Champions League'i in good working order. So basically did he even say what's being 'quoted' Don't believe everything you read. Is he happy he's banging goals in in the champions league? Yes. Is he going to stay at Besiktas like he says he would for years and years. I very much doubt it. Has he slated Crystal Palace... not at all.
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Goldfiinger

Just down the road 07 Nov 17 7.04pm

Originally posted by Jacey

Looks like Spurs are now his preferred destination.
Some you win,some you lose,eh SP.

Yeah but is that actually what he said.... that's how it's being reported but I read it slightly different.

More along the lines of he was gutted the move broke down but that in hindsight it's not the end of the world. As he's now scoring goals in the champions league.

Who would be sad about that???

The article is clearly click bait. If you link through to the Turkish interview and then translate that you get a fairly different view of what he was saying.

Babylon translation:
Besiktas'a very successful performance of scorer player Cenk Tosun BeİN Sports'a stunning statements found. Cenk Tosun'the descriptions said; 'go to Vice President goes to the course in the course at the moment I would stay for years' 'i would go to the Vice President of the course in the course at the cal Besiktas'i would stay in for years to come. I am, Besiktas'i am in but i want this season in the championship. Negredo has managed to very large jobs and egosu zero is a man with no problem with the us.

'Crystal Palace is so good returned to the post and transfer' 'Too large numbers commissioners. It was very proud to be so. Our interest in this job for me i am very pleased to be remembered. Crystal Palace'la name is is remembered. But he returned to the A-pillar Returned to the post and also good so. Where the mold leagues and Champions League'i in good working order.

So basically did he even say what's being 'quoted'

Don't believe everything you read.

Is he happy he's banging goals in in the champions league? Yes.

Is he going to stay at Besiktas like he says he would for years and years. I very much doubt it.

Has he slated Crystal Palace... not at all.

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 07 Nov 17 7.07pm
As those now thinking this guy has and attitude. Pfft! Transfer fell through and yet he just bounced back with the best form of his life. Seems like a guy with fantastic attitude if you ask me.
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Goldfiinger

Just down the road 07 Nov 17 7.07pm

As those now thinking this guy has and attitude.

Pfft!

Transfer fell through and yet he just bounced back with the best form of his life.

Seems like a guy with fantastic attitude if you ask me.

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Eaglecoops CR3 08 Nov 17 3.26pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger As those now thinking this guy has and attitude. Pfft! Transfer fell through and yet he just bounced back with the best form of his life. Seems like a guy with fantastic attitude if you ask me. You are assuming of course that you are correct in your interpretation of what he said. If he did in fact say he was glad he didn't sign for Palace because it would have been a career disaster for him, would you say the same thing about his attitude?
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Eaglecoops

CR3 08 Nov 17 3.26pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

As those now thinking this guy has and attitude.

Pfft!

Transfer fell through and yet he just bounced back with the best form of his life.

Seems like a guy with fantastic attitude if you ask me.

You are assuming of course that you are correct in your interpretation of what he said. If he did in fact say he was glad he didn't sign for Palace because it would have been a career disaster for him, would you say the same thing about his attitude?

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 08 Nov 17 6.50pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops You are assuming of course that you are correct in your interpretation of what he said. If he did in fact say he was glad he didn't sign for Palace because it would have been a career disaster for him, would you say the same thing about his attitude? As a palace fan I might feel like he said nasty things about my club and feel hard done by... but probably not. Fact is he wanted to come here, the deal feel through and he bounced back with four goals in the champions league while we sit bottom of the premiership. Which side of that coin is better for your career? And saying so is such a bad thing? Or only when you read the twisted versions on click bait. Look his dream move to the Prem fell through and he dug deep and made himself even better. That I'm afraid is only the sign of a strong attitude and self belief. I doubt any of us unless we're Turkish will really understand the manner in which he said the words. That's the thing with language. Stuff gets LOST in translation. But from what he does on a football pitch. Seems like he has a great attitude. Don't you think? Edited by Goldfiinger (08 Nov 2017 6.51pm)
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Goldfiinger

Just down the road 08 Nov 17 6.50pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

As a palace fan I might feel like he said nasty things about my club and feel hard done by... but probably not.

Fact is he wanted to come here, the deal feel through and he bounced back with four goals in the champions league while we sit bottom of the premiership.

Which side of that coin is better for your career?

And saying so is such a bad thing? Or only when you read the twisted versions on click bait.

Look his dream move to the Prem fell through and he dug deep and made himself even better. That I'm afraid is only the sign of a strong attitude and self belief.

I doubt any of us unless we're Turkish will really understand the manner in which he said the words. That's the thing with language. Stuff gets LOST in translation.

But from what he does on a football pitch. Seems like he has a great attitude.

Don't you think?

Edited by Goldfiinger (08 Nov 2017 6.51pm)

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Eaglecoops CR3 09 Nov 17 10.14am
Originally posted by Goldfiinger As a palace fan I might feel like he said nasty things about my club and feel hard done by... but probably not. Fact is he wanted to come here, the deal feel through and he bounced back with four goals in the champions league while we sit bottom of the premiership. Which side of that coin is better for your career? And saying so is such a bad thing? Or only when you read the twisted versions on click bait. Look his dream move to the Prem fell through and he dug deep and made himself even better. That I'm afraid is only the sign of a strong attitude and self belief. I doubt any of us unless we're Turkish will really understand the manner in which he said the words. That's the thing with language. Stuff gets LOST in translation. But from what he does on a football pitch. Seems like he has a great attitude. Don't you think? Edited by Goldfiinger (08 Nov 2017 6.51pm) Whilst I would say that I would be annoyed if he did have that attitude, in retrospect and having read as many of the articles that I can find on it, it appears that this has stemmed from one article with a jaundiced opinion. As you say, click bait and as is usual with all modern journalism, other media sources just copy it and put their twist on it. So I agree with you that the conversation he had should not paint him in the light the media seem to want to portray ie: as another Palace basher.
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CR3 09 Nov 17 10.14am

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

As a palace fan I might feel like he said nasty things about my club and feel hard done by... but probably not.

Fact is he wanted to come here, the deal feel through and he bounced back with four goals in the champions league while we sit bottom of the premiership.

Which side of that coin is better for your career?

And saying so is such a bad thing? Or only when you read the twisted versions on click bait.

Look his dream move to the Prem fell through and he dug deep and made himself even better. That I'm afraid is only the sign of a strong attitude and self belief.

I doubt any of us unless we're Turkish will really understand the manner in which he said the words. That's the thing with language. Stuff gets LOST in translation.

But from what he does on a football pitch. Seems like he has a great attitude.

Don't you think?

Edited by Goldfiinger (08 Nov 2017 6.51pm)

Whilst I would say that I would be annoyed if he did have that attitude, in retrospect and having read as many of the articles that I can find on it, it appears that this has stemmed from one article with a jaundiced opinion. As you say, click bait and as is usual with all modern journalism, other media sources just copy it and put their twist on it. So I agree with you that the conversation he had should not paint him in the light the media seem to want to portray ie: as another Palace basher.

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black-eagle95 09 Nov 17 1.06pm
I just registered that site to clear interview situation. First of all, he said many things. Some of them are: - He finds 150 million Euro meme hilarious. (In Turkey, when a player performs really well, some hard fans be like "he worths 150 million Euro" and meme around it) - He said, he owes more than 50% of his success to his family. He talked about having a peaceful and happy marriage, his father being by his side helps him a lot. - He said he had big dreams and he accomplished more than he dreamed. His dream was playing for Besiktas but haven't even thought of being a crucial first team player for Besiktas and 9th for national team. Now he set higher goals and will work harder to accomplish them as well. - He said he learnt a lot from Demba Ba, Gomez and Aboubakar but he learnt most from Gomez because they both speak German. - He gave some advice to young players. He said that they have to enjoy playing football and his most important experience is that normal team training is not enough. To reach top of your game, you need to train more. I will sentence by sentence translate what he said about Crystal Palace: Premier League is the best league in the world. They play high tempo and strength based football there. At the beginning of the season, high numbers were mentioned. I got proud of it. I have been mentioned a lot in England press. That made me really happy. Crystal Palace transfer was off the post. I'm glad that it did. I prayed for the best outcome. I did a lot here this season. (Translator note: So he's happy that transfer didn't happen because he did a lot in Besiktas this season) When it's the time and our president let me go, I would like to play in Europe. Premier League or La Liga, they are huge. When I'm done here, I want to represent Turkey as good as I can abroad. My current goal is to make Besiktas league champion here again. If President tell me to "Stay", I will stay here for years to come, if he tells me "Go", i will go if the club is making money. As a Turkish, I can tell he's the best player in Turkey especially when it comes to attitude. He trains a lot, he's an ideal family man and definitely is not and will not be spoiled. Edited by black-eagle95 (09 Nov 2017 1.07pm) Edited by black-eagle95 (15 Nov 2017 1.08pm)
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09 Nov 17 1.06pm

I just registered that site to clear interview situation.

First of all, he said many things. Some of them are:

- He finds 150 million Euro meme hilarious. (In Turkey, when a player performs really well, some hard fans be like "he worths 150 million Euro" and meme around it)
- He said, he owes more than 50% of his success to his family. He talked about having a peaceful and happy marriage, his father being by his side helps him a lot.
- He said he had big dreams and he accomplished more than he dreamed. His dream was playing for Besiktas but haven't even thought of being a crucial first team player for Besiktas and 9th for national team. Now he set higher goals and will work harder to accomplish them as well.
- He said he learnt a lot from Demba Ba, Gomez and Aboubakar but he learnt most from Gomez because they both speak German.
- He gave some advice to young players. He said that they have to enjoy playing football and his most important experience is that normal team training is not enough. To reach top of your game, you need to train more.

I will sentence by sentence translate what he said about Crystal Palace:

Premier League is the best league in the world. They play high tempo and strength based football there. At the beginning of the season, high numbers were mentioned. I got proud of it. I have been mentioned a lot in England press. That made me really happy. Crystal Palace transfer was off the post. I'm glad that it did. I prayed for the best outcome. I did a lot here this season. (Translator note: So he's happy that transfer didn't happen because he did a lot in Besiktas this season) When it's the time and our president let me go, I would like to play in Europe.

Premier League or La Liga, they are huge. When I'm done here, I want to represent Turkey as good as I can abroad. My current goal is to make Besiktas league champion here again. If President tell me to "Stay", I will stay here for years to come, if he tells me "Go", i will go if the club is making money.

As a Turkish, I can tell he's the best player in Turkey especially when it comes to attitude. He trains a lot, he's an ideal family man and definitely is not and will not be spoiled.

Edited by black-eagle95 (09 Nov 2017 1.07pm)

Edited by black-eagle95 (15 Nov 2017 1.08pm)

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