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View npn's Profile npn Flag Crowborough 06 Sep 17 12.50pm Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

What if he started eating vegans? High in vitamins and will reduce the amount of hot air in the atmosphere.

Tough one to spin though when the tabloid headlines read "Corbyn Eats Do-Gooder"

Sorry vegans, I'm not really poking fun at you. As alluded to earlier, respect for what you do and all that jazz.

Rich in fibre, I'd imagine

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 06 Sep 17 12.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

To you perhaps. Morality is a personal thing but humans were designed to eat meat and that is unavoidable.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (05 Sep 2017 1.24pm)

Morals aren't socially or personally defined, they're effective truths. Also humans aren't designed to do anything, they evolve.

Humans, like Chimps, are not carnivorous, they're omnivores. Chimps are not frequent meat eaters, and primarily consume vegetation, but supplement their diet with meat (typically small monkeys and insects).

Which is the healthy ideal for primitive humans / chimps ensures the widest spread of nutritional source. Arguably, that's not really necessary in the 20 and 21st century, as you can easily supplement nutrition through the greater knowledge of the subject available to humans.

Also if humans were 'designed' to eat meat they wouldn't need to cook it with the kind of regularity they do - as no other species needs to provide heat to eliminate toxin and germs. Like Chimps we can only eat very fresh meat raw.

The truth is that very few animals eat meat on a daily basis with the regularity of humans, and it is not particularly healthy for them to do so.

As you say later moderation is the key. But moderation isn't really 'once or twice a day'.

 


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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 06 Sep 17 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by npn

Rich in fibre, I'd imagine

Yes. Moral fibre I've been told....by vegans....on an hourly basis.

 




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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 06 Sep 17 3.20pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, fish and beans also have cholesterol. It's about the type of cholesterol and how much.

Chicken is fine and a good source of protein.....many foods are fine in moderation.


Beans? Beans! Beans are a cholesterol-lowering super-food that are high in protein and fibre. WTFF?

Yes, fish has cholesterol, which is why I don't eat it anymore.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 06 Sep 17 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


Beans? Beans! Beans are a cholesterol-lowering super-food that are high in protein and fibre. WTFF?

Yes, fish has cholesterol, which is why I don't eat it anymore.

Beans are great and are cholesterol lowering. But it's a reality that baked beans have cholesterol.

Cholesterol is necessary for life. It's the level.

 


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Originally posted by Part Time James

Corbyn only eats vegetables?

Well, you are what you eat.

Well That's not true as hardly any tories are made up from the blood of the poor.

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 06 Sep 17 3.52pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Beans are great and are cholesterol lowering. But it's a reality that baked beans have cholesterol.

Cholesterol is necessary for life. It's the level.

Stop being such a dick. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Beans are a fantastic source of good cholesterol. Chicken, beef, fish, eggs etc. are laced with bad cholesterol.

And if you think that a vegetarian is talking about cans of Heinz when they talk about eating beans, you're ignorant. I don't think you are, you're just deliberately obtuse when facts get in the way of your opinions because being wrong doesn't comport with your self-proclaimed "alpha male" online persona.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Morals aren't socially or personally defined, they're effective truths. Also humans aren't designed to do anything, they evolve.

Humans, like Chimps, are not carnivorous, they're omnivores. Chimps are not frequent meat eaters, and primarily consume vegetation, but supplement their diet with meat (typically small monkeys and insects).

Which is the healthy ideal for primitive humans / chimps ensures the widest spread of nutritional source. Arguably, that's not really necessary in the 20 and 21st century, as you can easily supplement nutrition through the greater knowledge of the subject available to humans.

Also if humans were 'designed' to eat meat they wouldn't need to cook it with the kind of regularity they do - as no other species needs to provide heat to eliminate toxin and germs. Like Chimps we can only eat very fresh meat raw.

The truth is that very few animals eat meat on a daily basis with the regularity of humans, and it is not particularly healthy for them to do so.

As you say later moderation is the key. But moderation isn't really 'once or twice a day'.

That is just opinion without a shred of scientific basis.
We do not need to cook meat but it does make it easier to break down and therefore more nutritional.

We eat too much of everything because it is available and we have a craving for nutrition rich foods because that is what would keep us from starving in the natural world where food is probably scarce and requires energy consumption to obtain.
The bottom line is that you can eat what you want and what most want is plenty of meat. That is the best evidence for our evolutionary desire to eat it and the reason why we eat too much of it in the modern world of plenty.

 

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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Stop being such a dick. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Beans are a fantastic source of good cholesterol. Chicken, beef, fish, eggs etc. are laced with bad cholesterol.

And if you think that a vegetarian is talking about cans of Heinz when they talk about eating beans, you're ignorant. I don't think you are, you're just deliberately obtuse when facts get in the way of your opinions because being wrong doesn't comport with your self-proclaimed "alpha male" online persona.


You are saying with authority and certainty what the worlds best nutritional scientists cannot agree on.

There is no certainty and there are very few absolutes in current nutritional science.

 

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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Stop being such a dick. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Beans are a fantastic source of good cholesterol. Chicken, beef, fish, eggs etc. are laced with bad cholesterol.

And if you think that a vegetarian is talking about cans of Heinz when they talk about eating beans, you're ignorant. I don't think you are, you're just deliberately obtuse when facts get in the way of your opinions because being wrong doesn't comport with your self-proclaimed "alpha male" online persona.

I'm seeing something very large and green, bursting out of his long trousers .

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 06 Sep 17 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are saying with authority and certainty what the worlds best nutritional scientists cannot agree on.

There is no certainty and there are very few absolutes in current nutritional science.


There are no absolutes in science; that what makes science so much better than belief or faith. It's constantly being challenged to prove the current consensus right or wrong and, when it's wrong, they change the consensus. Faith and belief are absolutes that never change and, as such, are far more dangerous.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 06 Sep 17 4.34pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

There are no absolutes in science; that what makes science so much better than belief or faith. It's constantly being challenged to prove the current consensus right or wrong and, when it's wrong, they change the consensus. Faith and belief are absolutes that never change and, as such, are far more dangerous.

Why do you subscribe to so much left wing claptrap then?

 


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