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legaleagle 09 Sep 17 7.17pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 It is ludicrous to stir up some brown shirt scare when the real fascists in this country are bombing children at concerts, running people down in the streets, stabbing police and civilians. They are the real growing danger that needs addressing, not a few neo-nazi nut jobs. Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Sep 2017 7.01pm) Some might say it is ludicrous to ignore the evidence (see Poland and Hungary) of the rekindling of fascistic filth in 21st century Europe.But that seems to bother you not a jot.We have had zillions of threads about your (and your ilks) views about immigrants (sorry,I meant muslims),Lets focus here on fascist scum (for scum is what they in truth are) and their very own intellectual appeasers,apologists and fellow travellers. If you look in a less parochial at nationalistic (state and individual "violence" in Europe these days,then fascist-like stuff (Poland,Hungary,former Yugoslavia,Belarus, Georgia,Russia and Ukraine) is way ahead of (scumbag and admittedly very much needing to be dealt with) sulafist jihadism. Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 7.18pm)
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09 Sep 17 7.17pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

It is ludicrous to stir up some brown shirt scare when the real fascists in this country are bombing children at concerts, running people down in the streets, stabbing police and civilians. They are the real growing danger that needs addressing, not a few neo-nazi nut jobs.

Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Sep 2017 7.01pm)

Some might say it is ludicrous to ignore the evidence (see Poland and Hungary) of the rekindling of fascistic filth in 21st century Europe.But that seems to bother you not a jot.We have had zillions of threads about your (and your ilks) views about immigrants (sorry,I meant muslims),Lets focus here on fascist scum (for scum is what they in truth are) and their very own intellectual appeasers,apologists and fellow travellers.

If you look in a less parochial at nationalistic (state and individual "violence" in Europe these days,then fascist-like stuff (Poland,Hungary,former Yugoslavia,Belarus, Georgia,Russia and Ukraine) is way ahead of (scumbag and admittedly very much needing to be dealt with) sulafist jihadism.

Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 7.18pm)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 09 Sep 17 7.37pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Some might say it is ludicrous to ignore the evidence (see Poland and Hungary) of the rekindling of fascistic filth in 21st century Europe.But that seems to bother you not a jot.We have had zillions of threads about your (and your ilks) views about immigrants (sorry,I meant muslims),Lets focus here on fascist scum (for scum is what they in truth are) and their very own intellectual appeasers,apologists and fellow travellers. If you look in a less parochial at nationalistic (state and individual "violence" in Europe these days,then fascist-like stuff (Poland,Hungary,former Yugoslavia,Belarus, Georgia,Russia and Ukraine) is way ahead of (scumbag and admittedly very much needing to be dealt with) sulafist jihadism. Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 7.18pm) Some might say it is ludicrous to ignore the evidence (see Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Denmark) of the continuing Islam inspired filth in 21st century Europe. But that seems to bother you not a jot. We have had zillions of threads about your (and your ilks) views about far right groups (sorry, I meant white people), Lets focus here on Islam inspired fascist scum (for scum is what they in truth are) and their very own intellectual appeasers, apologists and fellow travellers. If you look in a less parochial way at Islam inspired violence in Europe these days, then Islam inspired-like stuff (Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Denmark) is way ahead of (scumbag and admittedly very much needing to be dealt with) neo-nazism. Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Sep 2017 7.38pm) We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 09 Sep 17 7.37pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 7.18pm)

Some might say it is ludicrous to ignore the evidence (see Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Denmark) of the continuing Islam inspired filth in 21st century Europe. But that seems to bother you not a jot. We have had zillions of threads about your (and your ilks) views about far right groups (sorry, I meant white people), Lets focus here on Islam inspired fascist scum (for scum is what they in truth are) and their very own intellectual appeasers, apologists and fellow travellers.
If you look in a less parochial way at Islam inspired violence in Europe these days, then Islam inspired-like stuff (Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Denmark) is way ahead of (scumbag and admittedly very much needing to be dealt with) neo-nazism.

Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Sep 2017 7.38pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Jamesrichards8 09 Sep 17 7.54pm
The 'racial hatred' and fascist rhetoric supposedly espoused by trump is non-existent. Additionally, violent protesters and political affiliates are not fascists these days, the majority of violence in the United States and Europe has been caused by left wing groups, i.e. Thugs with little or no political knowledge. As for fake news, it is a proven fact with evidence from the hierarchy, that groups like CNN and MSNBC have perpetuated anti- trump stories with the sole purpose of denigrating his character and lowering his approval ratings. There is solid proof, and they have been caught admitting it. When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...
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The 'racial hatred' and fascist rhetoric supposedly espoused by trump is non-existent. Additionally, violent protesters and political affiliates are not fascists these days, the majority of violence in the United States and Europe has been caused by left wing groups, i.e. Thugs with little or no political knowledge.

As for fake news, it is a proven fact with evidence from the hierarchy, that groups like CNN and MSNBC have perpetuated anti- trump stories with the sole purpose of denigrating his character and lowering his approval ratings. There is solid proof, and they have been caught admitting it.

When you’re knocked on your back and your life’s a flop...

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Sep 17 8.15pm
Originally posted by Jamesrichards8 The 'racial hatred' and fascist rhetoric supposedly espoused by trump is non-existent. Additionally, violent protesters and political affiliates are not fascists these days, the majority of violence in the United States and Europe has been caused by left wing groups, i.e. Thugs with little or no political knowledge. As for fake news, it is a proven fact with evidence from the hierarchy, that groups like CNN and MSNBC have perpetuated anti- trump stories with the sole purpose of denigrating his character and lowering his approval ratings. There is solid proof, and they have been caught admitting it. Do want some news that isn't fake? Trump, the sex pest, recently pardoned a Sheriff convicted of criminal contempt who violated the constitution with his racial profiling, discrimination and hardline enforcing tactics. Edited by Kermit8 (09 Sep 2017 8.15pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Sep 17 8.15pm

Originally posted by Jamesrichards8

Do want some news that isn't fake? Trump, the sex pest, recently pardoned a Sheriff convicted of criminal contempt who violated the constitution with his racial profiling, discrimination and hardline enforcing tactics.

Edited by Kermit8 (09 Sep 2017 8.15pm)

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.TUX. 09 Sep 17 9.09pm
Originally posted by legaleagle John Le Carre is one of our most respected popular authors. He worked for M15 and M15,has been around the block and even those on the far right would have difficulty in suggesting he is not a "patriot". Speaking this week,he said: "Something truly,seriously bad is happening... These stages that Trump is going through and the stirring of racial hatred..a kind of burning of the books as he attacks,as he declares real news as fake news,the law becomes fake news,everything becomes fake news... I think of all things that were happening across Europe in the 1930s,in Spain Japan,obviously in Germany.To me,there are absolutely comparable signs of the rise of fascism and it's contagious,it's infectious.Fascism is up and running in Poland and Hungary.There's an encouragement about. ..These are infectious forms of demagogic behaviour and they are toxic..." Worrying times, illustrated when some now even seek to claim an equivalency between fascism and anti-fascism. nb. I messed up the thread title.Not enough space,Last word was "sentiments"Mods can you amend last two words to "fascism"? Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 1.02pm) Many people are fed up bud. Things really aren't that good, haven't been for years and the future shows no signs of improvement. Rather than blame the unhappy herd, ask yourself why so many are unhappy. PS The 'Equinax hacking' deserves more publicity than this imo. But obviously not yours. Buy Litecoin.
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09 Sep 17 9.09pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

John Le Carre is one of our most respected popular authors.

He worked for M15 and M15,has been around the block and even those on the far right would have difficulty in suggesting he is not a "patriot".

Speaking this week,he said:

"Something truly,seriously bad is happening...

These stages that Trump is going through and the stirring of racial hatred..a kind of burning of the books as he attacks,as he declares real news as fake news,the law becomes fake news,everything becomes fake news...

I think of all things that were happening across Europe in the 1930s,in Spain Japan,obviously in Germany.To me,there are absolutely comparable signs of the rise of fascism and it's contagious,it's infectious.Fascism is up and running in Poland and Hungary.There's an encouragement about.

..These are infectious forms of demagogic behaviour and they are toxic..."

Worrying times, illustrated when some now even seek to claim an equivalency between fascism and anti-fascism.

nb. I messed up the thread title.Not enough space,Last word was "sentiments"Mods can you amend last two words to "fascism"?

Edited by legaleagle (09 Sep 2017 1.02pm)

Many people are fed up bud.
Things really aren't that good, haven't been for years and the future shows no signs of improvement. Rather than blame the unhappy herd, ask yourself why so many are unhappy.

PS The 'Equinax hacking' deserves more publicity than this imo. But obviously not yours.

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.TUX. 09 Sep 17 9.13pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Do want some news that isn't fake? Trump, the sex pest, recently pardoned a Sheriff convicted of criminal contempt who violated the constitution with his racial profiling, discrimination and hardline enforcing tactics. Edited by Kermit8 (09 Sep 2017 8.15pm) The Constitution has for many years been repeatedly ''violated'' by many to the detriment of the American public. Next. Buy Litecoin.
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09 Sep 17 9.13pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Edited by Kermit8 (09 Sep 2017 8.15pm)

The Constitution has for many years been repeatedly ''violated'' by many to the detriment of the American public.

Next.

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youngpalacefan111 09 Sep 17 9.18pm
could be worse Kermit, Hillary could be in charge. You know the one who defended the guy who raped a 12 year old girl and laughed about it knowing full well he was guilty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDzRtZLUkc
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could be worse Kermit, Hillary could be in charge. You know the one who defended the guy who raped a 12 year old girl and laughed about it knowing full well he was guilty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDzRtZLUkc

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youngpalacefan111 09 Sep 17 9.19pm
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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Sep 17 9.26pm
Originally posted by youngpalacefan111 could be worse Kermit, Hillary could be in charge. You know the one who defended the guy who raped a 12 year old girl and laughed about it knowing full well he was guilty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDzRtZLUkc Yes, it better to have an actual rapist (alleged by Ivana) and sex pest (alleged by loads) in The White House than someone who was just being a total cvnt. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Sep 17 9.26pm

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

Yes, it better to have an actual rapist (alleged by Ivana) and sex pest (alleged by loads) in The White House than someone who was just being a total cvnt.

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youngpalacefan111 09 Sep 17 9.30pm
An actual rapist? By that logic there would be "an actual rapist" in the Whitehouse if Hillary was in charge, her husband.
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09 Sep 17 9.30pm

An actual rapist? By that logic there would be "an actual rapist" in the Whitehouse if Hillary was in charge, her husband.

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Kermit8 Hevon 09 Sep 17 9.46pm
Originally posted by youngpalacefan111 An actual rapist? By that logic there would be "an actual rapist" in the Whitehouse if Hillary was in charge, her husband. Ok let's just make it easy for the Yanks in future. The President has to have been born in the U.S and have raped someone before throwing their hat into the candidacy ring. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 09 Sep 17 9.46pm

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

An actual rapist? By that logic there would be "an actual rapist" in the Whitehouse if Hillary was in charge, her husband.

Ok let's just make it easy for the Yanks in future. The President has to have been born in the U.S and have raped someone before throwing their hat into the candidacy ring.

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.TUX. 09 Sep 17 9.54pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Ok let's just make it easy for the Yanks in future. The President has to have been born in the U.S and have raped someone before throwing their hat into the candidacy ring. You really are a tart at times Kerm. Buy Litecoin.
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09 Sep 17 9.54pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Ok let's just make it easy for the Yanks in future. The President has to have been born in the U.S and have raped someone before throwing their hat into the candidacy ring.

You really are a tart at times Kerm.

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