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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Sep 17 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I have to say I am sincerely hoping for a game tomorrow, i really hope we see a competitive Palace side out there and if FdB can get us playing football then all will be rosy actually because I think having him as a long term manager is an exciting prospect but that is of course dependant on more immediate results.

However, am I the only one who feels like his press conferences are Pardewesque in the fact it's full of rhetoric - (we need confidence, goals, points, I am responsible for the team etc.) yet I never hear him say anything that leads me to believe he knows what he's talking about or has an actual plan for addressing our numerous problems?

I suppose the proof is in the pudding and we'll see tomorrow, I also have faith he'll be sacked if the pathetic nonsense on the pitch continues, but I'm sticking with blind hope ATM because I have nothing of substance from the manager to go off!

COYP!!

 


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View Icepick Tony's Profile Icepick Tony Flag Chester 09 Sep 17 1.54pm Send a Private Message to Icepick Tony Add Icepick Tony as a friend

I disagree, he obviously believes in philosophy and is backing himself. The difference between him and Pardew is that this is his first taste of the Premier league so he has to adapt his philosophy to suit the league whilst also teaching a new team. Pardew knew the league and what to expect and had no idea of the style or formation he was trying to get across, he shot himself in the foot.

I'm not sure FDB will work out with us, I would love to see him succeed but he also has had nowhere near enough time yet. The players also need to shoulder some of the blame as we have had our chances in every game and failed to take them and we all know that is the thing that counts most at the top level. I think we will see some changes to formation but I also believe that the manager should have a certain degree of stubbornness with their thinking in order to be in control.

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 09 Sep 17 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

And who does detail their tactical plans in press conferences? And why do you think it would be a good idea to telegraph to our opponents what we're planning to do?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Sep 17 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

And who does detail their tactical plans in press conferences? And why do you think it would be a good idea to telegraph to our opponents what we're planning to do?

No I agree should have included that point but there's not even a acknowledgement of the problems that worries me

 


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View djcpfc's Profile djcpfc Flag Within a 5 minute walk 09 Sep 17 3.08pm Send a Private Message to djcpfc Add djcpfc as a friend

Time is going to tell whether FDB can cut it with Palace in the Prem. For us fans to expect his methods to show instant improvements is naive, for his philosophy unfettered equally so.

3 games does not make a season. BFS took 6 games to get a win, give the guy until mid-october before jumping to conclusions, to throw it in now is completely ludicrous.

All the noise about SP not taking to him and regretting appointing him is a distraction. I don't think all the players need to like a manager either. FBD obviously believes in his ideas and his processes so if that puts some people out then they need to put it to one side and get on board.

No one member of staff is bigger than the club, we spent time making the decision to appoint FDB on the basis that he is a winner, we need winners at the club to go forward. Everyone needs to look at what they have put in since the start of the season, we were undercooked in pre-season and the result is 3 games 3 losses.

I don't expect him to interview well I expect that he should be able to set a team up and improve the players. He's under pressure at the moment which I expect doesn't help. Bob Bradley was really good at interviews.

The fans need to get behind the team and get a grip frankly and stop trying to make the new manager a scapegoat.

COYP

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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 09 Sep 17 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I have to say I am sincerely hoping for a game tomorrow, i really hope we see a competitive Palace side out there and if FdB can get us playing football then all will be rosy actually because I think having him as a long term manager is an exciting prospect but that is of course dependant on more immediate results.

However, am I the only one who feels like his press conferences are Pardewesque in the fact it's full of rhetoric - (we need confidence, goals, points, I am responsible for the team etc.) yet I never hear him say anything that leads me to believe he knows what he's talking about or has an actual plan for addressing our numerous problems?

I suppose the proof is in the pudding and we'll see tomorrow, I also have faith he'll be sacked if the pathetic nonsense on the pitch continues, but I'm sticking with blind hope ATM because I have nothing of substance from the manager to go off!

COYP!!

I think this is a great summary of largely how i feel as well.

I want and pray he succeeds but do feel like his press conferences sound very much like Pardew and that worries me. I hope he hasn't lost the dressing room and puts a team out capable of fighting for the shirt. If not i suspect he'll be gone and rightly so.

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 09 Sep 17 3.41pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Frank has mastered the art of speaking for 20 mins and not saying anything

 

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View FairweatherEagle's Profile FairweatherEagle Flag London 09 Sep 17 3.56pm Send a Private Message to FairweatherEagle Add FairweatherEagle as a friend

Originally posted by slubglurge

Frank has mastered the art of speaking for 20 mins and not saying anything

Which is exactly what you need to do in press conferences.

 

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chateauferret Flag 09 Sep 17 4.34pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

No I agree should have included that point but there's not even a acknowledgement of the problems that worries me

Allardyce does. But only *after* he's used them to wipe the floor with Arsenal.

 


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View black eagle.'s Profile black eagle. Flag south croydon. 09 Sep 17 5.50pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

I really hope FDB gets a result tomorrow.
he deserves a run of at least 10 games.

If he reverts to 4-3-3 then we'll start to pick up results sooner or later.

 

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