If a manager doesn't bring confidence to the players then he's a bad manager.

If you play with confidence and lose then that's acceptable.

If you have experienced and proven Premiership players yet play four games and score no goals then I'm afraid some people just aren't accepting reality.

Three of these four games were against the weaker Premiership sides...It's not as those all these sides were in a great place themselves.....these are damning realities.

Frank was a bad pick.....Great player, not a great manager.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yes, but let's not deceive ourselves. This was an average, if solid, Burnley team. Didn't they just sit back and allow us the possession?

Does that not remind you of us 4/5 years ago?

Three out of these four games were against the weakest Premiership teams....All of these sides have problems themselves. Even playing average we should have 4 points by now. We have had easier games that the other sides sitting with zero points with us.

Worst start ever in the Premiership.

This isn't a manager connecting with his players.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Sep 2017 3.45pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

This is a manager who was brought in to change the style and was not backed in the window to facilitate that change. He has adapted his mentality in order to save his job. Don't see any of those teams having more problems than us right now and its not all FdB's fault. The board need to take the large percentage of the blame.

Not connecting with players.... i would say that stats and performance today would say otherwise.

Three out of these four games were against the weakest Premiership teams....All of these sides have problems themselves. Even playing average we should have 4 points by now. We have had easier games that the other sides sitting with zero points with us.

Worst start ever in the Premiership.

This isn't a manager connecting with his players.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Sep 2017 3.45pm)

If we had sacked FDB straight after the Swansea game, got in another manager immediately, and then got this exact same result and performance today, everyone would be feeling positive that we were making progress.