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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 07 Mar 19 9.13am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

If it was lack of funds, it doesn't look good for us then

Compared to Liverpool's infrastructure when he arrived ours was brilliant.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 07 Mar 19 9.21am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I think Roy is very good at taking an average team and drilling them in training so that they know exactly what their job is and what to do in certain situations. This is ideal for teams like Palace, WBA and Fulham.

At international level he would not have enough time with the players to drill them daily as he does in club sessions. At a bigger club he has to deal with better players and bigger egos and they may not take to doing the same things in training each day.

yes exactly, wasn't given the time and patience his methods desire.

No one can ever know if allowed to continue what he could have achieved at Liverpool and as England manager, Burnley could very easily have sacked Sean Dyche many years ago.

 

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View berlinpalace's Profile berlinpalace Flag berlin 07 Mar 19 9.40am Send a Private Message to berlinpalace Add berlinpalace as a friend

A lot of comment about what a poor job Hodgson did at Liverpool. To put into context what a basket case he took over there, he was followed by the messiah Dalglish who was allowed to spend 50M on strikers and then led them to their worst league finish in decades and was sacked one year into a three year deal.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 07 Mar 19 10.01am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Hodgson didn't Fit At Liverpool. I'm not sure he'd ever be a success there, these things happen.

And I think his time at England was a good one. His qualifying and General play in them was good. He captitulated (spectacularily in his case) in the tournaments, so will ultimately be deemed a failure. even though this is hardly without precedent when England are concerned!

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 07 Mar 19 11.09am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

One bad result with the England team when they failed to turn up, Hodgson like us had to watch them fail.

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Stop following all the sheep!

Give over.

I watched England crash out at major competitions with my own eyes.

One result. Deluded.

 

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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 08 Mar 19 7.16am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Give over.

I watched England crash out at major competitions with my own eyes.

One result. Deluded.

How come, has he been the England manager since 1966, or maybe there were other managers who also crashed out, like ALL of them except Ramsey.
Its you who is deluded.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 Mar 19 7.47am

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

How come, has he been the England manager since 1966, or maybe there were other managers who also crashed out, like ALL of them except Ramsey.
Its you who is deluded.

What's that got to do with the price of potatoes?

The FA has a track record of appointing crap managers, so what?

There's a difference between being knocked out and crashing out. Venables, Robson, Ericsson didn't crash out.


Edited by ChrisGC (08 Mar 2019 7.50am)

 

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

What's that got to do with the price of potatoes?

The FA has a track record of appointing crap managers, so what?

There's a difference between being knocked out and crashing out. Venables, Robson, Ericsson didn't crash out.


Edited by ChrisGC (08 Mar 2019 7.50am)

I’m afraid we have a track record of bang average players, not managers. You could put Pep in charge of the England team and we would do no better in tournaments. You can argue against this all you like however we are simply not good enough. Although I am with you that I don’t think Roy was the greatest of England managers, he was let down very badly by the players in ‘that’ match.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Mar 19 10.16am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Roy wasn't the greatest of England Managers ? And so what ??

Was Gareth Southgate an outstanding manager worthy of the England job ? I think not.

The FA, much as I dislike them, are somewhat hamstrung if the criteria for the England Managers job is for somebody that has been successful at club level both domestically and internationally. Oh, and English. Blimey, even Pardew was being talked up a few years back.

And they tend to go for the ' safe ' option from any contenders.

There are some on this thread that are quite blatantly anti Hodgson. Debating the subject with them is not going to change their minds any more than I can be pursuaded that Roy isn't doing a decent job.


 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Mar 19 10.41am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Hodgson didn't Fit At Liverpool. I'm not sure he'd ever be a success there, these things happen.

And I think his time at England was a good one. His qualifying and General play in them was good. He captitulated (spectacularily in his case) in the tournaments, so will ultimately be deemed a failure. even though this is hardly without precedent when England are concerned!

Hodgson wouldn’t fit at any club trying to compete to win anything, and top 4 is like winning something since it’s so competitive and there is a prize in where you finish looking up rather than looking down.

He played cautiously at Liverpool and that’s not enough when you need to try and win 80% of your matches and then play with a bit more caution vs the top 6 sides.

His football can be really boring at times and when you know it’s not working, he won’t do anything that match so you’ll have to wait till next week or the week after when what he’s doing usually does work, and that’s why he’s our manager and I accept it, however frustrating it is. We may even go on runs later on in the season but it doesn’t excite for the most part. That’s how we’ve roughly been just above relegation until recently.

 


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This post has been merged from a topic called '7th best in prem' by Midlands Eagle

maybe looking through red and blue tinted glasses but honestly believe that Roy has brought together a team that if we can hold on to AWB and buy BAT and have a fully fit Sakho should certainly be in top 10 and probably 7th best.Awful finishing has cost us dear and left us in the false position we find ourselves in at present.Stuff the weed tomorrow and with a home game against Huddersfield fears of relegation will be gone so please Roy lets go with top side for the cup.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 Mar 19 11.33am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Hodgson wouldn’t fit at any club trying to compete to win anything, and top 4 is like winning something since it’s so competitive and there is a prize in where you finish looking up rather than looking down.

He played cautiously at Liverpool and that’s not enough when you need to try and win 80% of your matches and then play with a bit more caution vs the top 6 sides.

His football can be really boring at times and when you know it’s not working, he won’t do anything that match so you’ll have to wait till next week or the week after when what he’s doing usually does work, and that’s why he’s our manager and I accept it, however frustrating it is. We may even go on runs later on in the season but it doesn’t excite for the most part. That’s how we’ve roughly been just above relegation until recently.

Superbly put, nice to see a bit of reason.

 

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