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elgrande bedford 13 Sep 17 3.16pm
I can't remember which bank/financial company it was,but I saw a programme a few months back where they were fronting the costs for building social housing,and then leasing them to the local councils. I think the main point of it was that they had the funds to build them but the local authorities didn't. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 13 Sep 17 3.16pm

I can't remember which bank/financial company it was,but I saw a programme a few months back where they were fronting the costs for building social housing,and then leasing them to the local councils.
I think the main point of it was that they had the funds to build them but the local authorities didn't.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Sep 17 4.08pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What kind of future is this? Talk about accepting lower standards for the coming generation. We have to find a different ways of tackling the population and housing problems. But that won't happen because essentially....agendas. Even in Blade Runner the apartments seem very spacey. Its bad enough how small a new build one bedroomed house is, let alone having people living effectively in what amounts to student halls and Travelodge cells. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Sep 17 4.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What kind of future is this? Talk about accepting lower standards for the coming generation.

We have to find a different ways of tackling the population and housing problems.

But that won't happen because essentially....agendas.

Even in Blade Runner the apartments seem very spacey. Its bad enough how small a new build one bedroomed house is, let alone having people living effectively in what amounts to student halls and Travelodge cells.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Pete53 Hassocks 13 Sep 17 4.26pm
Yes, just think if we could also get people to sleep strapped in an upright position you could save all that space that a bed takes up. Edited by Pete53 (13 Sep 2017 4.27pm) Edited by Pete53 (13 Sep 2017 4.27pm)
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Hassocks 13 Sep 17 4.26pm

Yes, just think if we could also get people to sleep strapped in an upright position you could save all that space that a bed takes up.

Edited by Pete53 (13 Sep 2017 4.27pm)

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Sep 17 12.33am
Originally posted by elgrande I can't remember which bank/financial company it was,but I saw a programme a few months back where they were fronting the costs for building social housing,and then leasing them to the local councils. I think the main point of it was that they had the funds to build them but the local authorities didn't. .........Or rather they do have the money, but decide to splurge it all on useless other projects. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Sep 17 12.33am

Originally posted by elgrande

.........Or rather they do have the money, but decide to splurge it all on useless other projects.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 12.37am
Originally posted by Pete53 Yes, just think if we could also get people to sleep strapped in an upright position you could save all that space that a bed takes up. Edited by Pete53 (13 Sep 2017 4.27pm) Edited by Pete53 (13 Sep 2017 4.27pm) Shelves. That's the answer. Lots of em.
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Shizzlehurst 14 Sep 17 12.37am

Originally posted by Pete53

Yes, just think if we could also get people to sleep strapped in an upright position you could save all that space that a bed takes up.

Edited by Pete53 (13 Sep 2017 4.27pm)

Shelves. That's the answer. Lots of em.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 Sep 17 7.37am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 These will indeed be the dystopian slums of the future if we're not careful. Demand drives price, and whilst initially cheap, these will only ever be slightly cheaper than the absurdly high rental prices for property in London. Its no different than all those tiny one bedroom box houses they built in the 90s that were cheap housing, and then simply became to expensive for most people to buy, because the prices of housing was ridiculous. The solution really lies in controlling the housing market, and property availability and affordability - not in producing just more product into the market. Government cannot keep avoiding making that tough decision, just on the basis of protecting their popularity - the experiment in 'home ownership' has become a total fking disaster.** trouble is, on a 5 year political cycle, most Governments have given the issue a wide swerve. And yes, it is a fcking disaster. The houses being built around where I live have a starting price of �300,000, rising to �800,000. Where is the affordable housing ? my neighbours (late 20's) are having to rent as no banks will give them a mortgage. The system is so totally fcked now, that no-one will have the balls to tackle it "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

These will indeed be the dystopian slums of the future if we're not careful. Demand drives price, and whilst initially cheap, these will only ever be slightly cheaper than the absurdly high rental prices for property in London.

Its no different than all those tiny one bedroom box houses they built in the 90s that were cheap housing, and then simply became to expensive for most people to buy, because the prices of housing was ridiculous.

The solution really lies in controlling the housing market, and property availability and affordability - not in producing just more product into the market.

Government cannot keep avoiding making that tough decision, just on the basis of protecting their popularity - the experiment in 'home ownership' has become a total f**king disaster.

trouble is, on a 5 year political cycle, most Governments have given the issue a wide swerve.
And yes, it is a fcking disaster. The houses being built around where I live have a starting price of �300,000, rising to �800,000. Where is the affordable housing ? my neighbours (late 20's) are having to rent as no banks will give them a mortgage.

The system is so totally fcked now, that no-one will have the balls to tackle it

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 Sep 17 8.29am
and just to add, affordable housing should not mean it's a total pile of shlt. High-rise flats (and their like) can develop social problems for some residents (e.g. loss of social integration), as they tend to become a dumping ground for some of societies mis-fits. Government won't sort the housing issue, so the Free-market will prevail on whether micro-homes are the future. "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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in a hidey-hole 14 Sep 17 8.29am

and just to add, affordable housing should not mean it's a total pile of shlt.
High-rise flats (and their like) can develop social problems for some residents (e.g. loss of social integration), as they tend to become a dumping ground for some of societies mis-fits.

Government won't sort the housing issue, so the Free-market will prevail on whether micro-homes are the future.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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.TUX. 14 Sep 17 8.57am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What kind of future is this? Talk about accepting lower standards for the coming generation. We have to find a different ways of tackling the population and housing problems. But that won't happen because essentially....agendas. This. As with much of life, there are far too many vested interests wanting a cut.......of pretty much everything. Buy Litecoin.
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14 Sep 17 8.57am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What kind of future is this? Talk about accepting lower standards for the coming generation.

We have to find a different ways of tackling the population and housing problems.

But that won't happen because essentially....agendas.

This.
As with much of life, there are far too many vested interests wanting a cut.......of pretty much everything.

Buy Litecoin.

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.TUX. 14 Sep 17 8.58am
Originally posted by nickgusset Shelves. That's the answer. Lots of em. Buy Litecoin.
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14 Sep 17 8.58am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Shelves. That's the answer. Lots of em.

Buy Litecoin.

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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Sep 17 9.46am
My brother and his wife live on a canal boat, this is a life style choice. He also works for a company that sells them. It used to be well off and or retired people who bought for leisure activities. Today it tends to be young people who buy as a place to live. He is in the Midlands, they sail the boats back to London. I was at Lee Valley recently and saw several hundred moored up. You can buy a second hand boat for between �30-50,000 they are warm and comfortable and have a resale value as long as you look after them. Mooring fees will depend on where you are but �3-5000 pa is typical. As I said in my previous post we have to get imaginative. Whether its a micro flat, a boat or a prefab (see Ladywell for the new types). In a perfect world the population would be smaller and social housing would be palaces but we have to start somewhere. The bedroom tax may offend many people but is it right that a single person lives in a three bedroom council house whilst young people are homeless or are in overcrowded accommodation? The tax may not be the answer maybe it should be a carrot but I do think we need to encourage downsizing in social housing. Many people who own their homes downsize as they get older. Bottom line I feel sorry for young people today and housing is a mess. The politicians need to get real and come up with policies that most parties can live with. UKIP focused the main parties on the EU question for better or for worse. Maybe we need a Social Housing party to force this agenda. One more point
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Beckenham 14 Sep 17 9.46am

My brother and his wife live on a canal boat, this is a life style choice. He also works for a company that sells them. It used to be well off and or retired people who bought for leisure activities.

Today it tends to be young people who buy as a place to live. He is in the Midlands, they sail the boats back to London. I was at Lee Valley recently and saw several hundred moored up.

You can buy a second hand boat for between �30-50,000 they are warm and comfortable and have a resale value as long as you look after them. Mooring fees will depend on where you are but �3-5000 pa is typical.

As I said in my previous post we have to get imaginative. Whether its a micro flat, a boat or a prefab (see Ladywell for the new types). In a perfect world the population would be smaller and social housing would be palaces but we have to start somewhere.

The bedroom tax may offend many people but is it right that a single person lives in a three bedroom council house whilst young people are homeless or are in overcrowded accommodation? The tax may not be the answer maybe it should be a carrot but I do think we need to encourage downsizing in social housing. Many people who own their homes downsize as they get older.

Bottom line I feel sorry for young people today and housing is a mess. The politicians need to get real and come up with policies that most parties can live with. UKIP focused the main parties on the EU question for better or for worse. Maybe we need a Social Housing party to force this agenda.

One more point

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Kermit8 Hevon 14 Sep 17 10.01am
A company in Sydney constructs modular/pre fab accommodation above state owned buildings - very little disruption - for nurses and essential workers and suchlike, and at affordable rent costs, to ease their housing problems. Working a treat. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 14 Sep 17 10.01am

A company in Sydney constructs modular/pre fab accommodation above state owned buildings - very little disruption - for nurses and essential workers and suchlike, and at affordable rent costs, to ease their housing problems. Working a treat.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Beanyboysmd 14 Sep 17 10.26am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That is the bottom line. Agreed, even the most hardline right winger has to admit that if property was affordable, much fewer people would need council housing, which would in turn save the government a fortune. Hoping agencies and developers will do the right thing and build cheaper housing is just insanity. Left to it they will just come up with diabolical ideas like this one...
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14 Sep 17 10.26am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is the bottom line.

Agreed, even the most hardline right winger has to admit that if property was affordable, much fewer people would need council housing, which would in turn save the government a fortune.

Hoping agencies and developers will do the right thing and build cheaper housing is just insanity. Left to it they will just come up with diabolical ideas like this one...

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