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Eaglecoops CR3 16 Sep 17 6.26pm
His game has been on the decline for 2 seasons. Would be good cover in the position but needs to be dropped now. I lost count of the poor passes, crosses, positional defensive lapses etc etc today. Simply not good enough although he wasn't on his own as Schlupp was caught out of position 5 or 6 times.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 16 Sep 17 6.26pm

His game has been on the decline for 2 seasons. Would be good cover in the position but needs to be dropped now. I lost count of the poor passes, crosses, positional defensive lapses etc etc today. Simply not good enough although he wasn't on his own as Schlupp was caught out of position 5 or 6 times.

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Gyro1780 Leatherhead, Surrey 16 Sep 17 6.27pm
Ward & Puncheon have got to be replaced. DEF should be Fosu-Mensah Dann or Tomkins Sakho van Aanholt or Schlupp
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Gyro1780

Leatherhead, Surrey 16 Sep 17 6.27pm

Ward & Puncheon have got to be replaced.

DEF should be

Fosu-Mensah
Dann or Tomkins
Sakho
van Aanholt or Schlupp

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babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 16 Sep 17 6.42pm
Originally posted by Ruby50 I wouldn't hang Ward out to dry.We need to encourage our players and make them more confident. He's not the problem it's our overpaid stars that are not doing the business. Apart from Townsend the rest were absolute garbage! Particular mention for Benteke,Cabaye and Scott Dann. Watched on tv and the fans leaving early only one goal down is pathetic. Let's get behind the players we might be pleasantly surprised!! So your watching a home game on tv and think the fans that actually go and support the team are pathetic for leaving early ! Well done for watching tv till the end and not changing channel.. you are a true fan. And yes Ward was atrocious. And Townsends dithering and inability to cross was equally poor.
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babylonjohn

St Leonards-on-Sea 16 Sep 17 6.42pm

Originally posted by Ruby50

I wouldn't hang Ward out to dry.We need to encourage our players and make them more confident.
He's not the problem it's our overpaid stars that are not doing the business.
Apart from Townsend the rest were absolute garbage! Particular mention for Benteke,Cabaye and Scott Dann.
Watched on tv and the fans leaving early only one goal down is pathetic.
Let's get behind the players we might be pleasantly surprised!!

So your watching a home game on tv and think the fans that actually go and support the team are pathetic for leaving early !
Well done for watching tv till the end and not changing channel.. you are a true fan. And yes Ward was atrocious. And Townsends dithering and inability to cross was equally poor.

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FairweatherEagle London 16 Sep 17 9.12pm
Ward's a decent defender on his day, but yes, he needs replacing. But looks to me like his confidence is shot as he was decent last week. Even so that RB position should be TFM's every time.
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Ward's a decent defender on his day, but yes, he needs replacing. But looks to me like his confidence is shot as he was decent last week. Even so that RB position should be TFM's every time.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 17 Sep 17 7.09am
I don't get the anti Joel Ward brigade. Been a steady and reliable player for us for years and continues to be. Very experienced defender and rarely puts a foot wrong. He's been played out of position often at LB in the past and under FDB at RWB, you can't blame someone for not performing to their best in an unfamiliar position - that's the managers fault for putting him there. TFM is clearly more of a CB than an RB which is why he is playing at CB. I'm sure a recently read that no other outfield player played more minutes than Ward last season in the Premier League- that stat speaks for itself. Ward will continue to play at RB under Hodgson because he's our best player there. All our previous managers have also agreed. There are far bigger problems with our squad than this.
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The Cronx 17 Sep 17 7.09am

I don't get the anti Joel Ward brigade. Been a steady and reliable player for us for years and continues to be. Very experienced defender and rarely puts a foot wrong. He's been played out of position often at LB in the past and under FDB at RWB, you can't blame someone for not performing to their best in an unfamiliar position - that's the managers fault for putting him there.

TFM is clearly more of a CB than an RB which is why he is playing at CB. I'm sure a recently read that no other outfield player played more minutes than Ward last season in the Premier League- that stat speaks for itself.

Ward will continue to play at RB under Hodgson because he's our best player there. All our previous managers have also agreed. There are far bigger problems with our squad than this.

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chris123 hove actually 17 Sep 17 8.05am
I know one of the issues with FdB was that he may not have thought Delaney, Kelly and Ward were good enough and that did not go down well in certain quarters. Sadly for the players, their inability to pass the ball or adapt to new systems was clear when Pardew tried getting us to play football. Even Benteke looks as if he's struggling - and that must be a worry. People have said we have no cover for CB - well I'd drop him for lack of effort. Without Wilf we really not pose too many threats and we miss Yannick Bolasie.
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chris123

hove actually 17 Sep 17 8.05am

I know one of the issues with FdB was that he may not have thought Delaney, Kelly and Ward were good enough and that did not go down well in certain quarters. Sadly for the players, their inability to pass the ball or adapt to new systems was clear when Pardew tried getting us to play football. Even Benteke looks as if he's struggling - and that must be a worry. People have said we have no cover for CB - well I'd drop him for lack of effort. Without Wilf we really not pose too many threats and we miss Yannick Bolasie.

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thai-eagle chiang mai 17 Sep 17 8.44am
Originally posted by Goal Machine I don't get the anti Joel Ward brigade. Been a steady and reliable player for us for years and continues to be. Very experienced defender and rarely puts a foot wrong. He's been played out of position often at LB in the past and under FDB at RWB, you can't blame someone for not performing to their best in an unfamiliar position - that's the managers fault for putting him there. TFM is clearly more of a CB than an RB which is why he is playing at CB. I'm sure a recently read that no other outfield player played more minutes than Ward last season in the Premier League- that stat speaks for itself. Ward will continue to play at RB under Hodgson because he's our best player there. All our previous managers have also agreed. There are far bigger problems with our squad than this. Joel Ward is a fine professional and a credit to the business, but he is - and has not been - PL standard for most of the last two seasons. Slow, bad passer & crosser of the ball, out of position to mention a few. I really hope Roy H. place Fosu-M there for rest of season - or pick some player from Under-23. Or both....
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thai-eagle

chiang mai 17 Sep 17 8.44am

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Ward will continue to play at RB under Hodgson because he's our best player there. All our previous managers have also agreed. There are far bigger problems with our squad than this.

Joel Ward is a fine professional and a credit to the business, but he is - and has not been - PL standard for most of the last two seasons. Slow, bad passer & crosser of the ball, out of position to mention a few. I really hope Roy H. place Fosu-M there for rest of season - or pick some player from Under-23. Or both....

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slubglurge welling 17 Sep 17 9.00am
At least Roy now knows how poor he is. The defining moment yesterday must have been his attempt at a Cruyff turn where he was dispossessed and then had to wrestle the player to the ground right in front of the dugout must be the end for him
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slubglurge

welling 17 Sep 17 9.00am

At least Roy now knows how poor he is. The defining moment yesterday must have been his attempt at a Cruyff turn where he was dispossessed and then had to wrestle the player to the ground right in front of the dugout must be the end for him

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taylors lovechild 17 Sep 17 10.56am
He works hard and really tries for the team, but he only looks comfortable now in games where we sit deep. His lack of pace has been exploited in most games so far this season and his crossing and link-up play when going forward has been pretty poor. I'm curious to know why he has turned down a new contract. I couldn't see another PL team taking him on so it can't be money or progression. Was it just the Frank issue?
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17 Sep 17 10.56am

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He works hard and really tries for the team, but he only looks comfortable now in games where we sit deep. His lack of pace has been exploited in most games so far this season and his crossing and link-up play when going forward has been pretty poor.

I'm curious to know why he has turned down a new contract. I couldn't see another PL team taking him on so it can't be money or progression. Was it just the Frank issue?

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Sep 17 11.02am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild He works hard and really tries for the team, but he only looks comfortable now in games where we sit deep. His lack of pace has been exploited in most games so far this season and his crossing and link-up play when going forward has been pretty poor. I'm curious to know why he has turned down a new contract. I couldn't see another PL team taking him on so it can't be money or progression. Was it just the Frank issue? A few seasons ago I raised this point and expressed reservations about Ward in the PL and brimstone came my way with some advocating that he should receive an England call-up ! The poor lad is being badly exposed at the top level, but he gives his all for the cause and never shirks a challenge so 'Hats off' to him in this respect.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Sep 17 11.02am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

He works hard and really tries for the team, but he only looks comfortable now in games where we sit deep. His lack of pace has been exploited in most games so far this season and his crossing and link-up play when going forward has been pretty poor.

I'm curious to know why he has turned down a new contract. I couldn't see another PL team taking him on so it can't be money or progression. Was it just the Frank issue?

A few seasons ago I raised this point and expressed reservations about Ward in the PL and brimstone came my way with some advocating that he should receive an England call-up !

The poor lad is being badly exposed at the top level, but he gives his all for the cause and never shirks a challenge so 'Hats off' to him in this respect.

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eagles911 17 Sep 17 11.10am
Originally posted by Gyro1780 Ward & Puncheon have got to be replaced. DEF should be Fosu-Mensah Dann or Tomkins Sakho van Aanholt or Schlupp Agree totally regards Punch and Ward. My ideal back 4 would be Fosu-Mensah Sakho Souare and either Tomkins or Dann Edited by eagles911 (17 Sep 2017 11.11am)
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17 Sep 17 11.10am