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 npn  Crowborough 19 Sep 17 5.48pm |
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Proof that it's a lot easier being in opposition saying "you're doing it all wrong" than it is to be in power and do it 'right'
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| rob1969 Banstead Surrey 19 Sep 17 6.30pm |
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Originally posted by rob1969
A politician. Prepared to sacrifice a religious minority in order to keep your supporters on side. They presumably include the military who I feel sure still pull her strings Shocking situation - she should be stripped of her noble peace prize - if that is possible! PS/ Just seen her on the BBC news saying she understands people have been crossing the border to Bangladesh and she needs to investigate why.
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| legaleagle 20 Sep 17 9.08am |
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Appalling.No excuses If the majority were muslim and the oppressed minority not,I suspect this thread would be a good few pages longer by now.Now,why would that be?
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| npn Crowborough 20 Sep 17 9.24am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Appalling.No excuses If the majority were muslim and the oppressed minority not,I suspect this thread would be a good few pages longer by now.Now,why would that be? I suspect you're looking for correlations that just aren't there. With respect, it looks like a "reds under the bed" conclusion to draw. This one is a little more complex because of who's in charge of Myanmar - she was widely viewed as a bit of a hero, and awarded the Nobel peace prize, so it's a hard one to stomach that, just maybe, she's no better than the military despots she took over from. I don't really know how to feel about it - I desperately want there to be good people in the world, and she was a prime candidate. I also don't really know enough about what's going on and why (which I don't think has anything to do with the religion of the protagonists - I was equally ignorant of the Tamil issue in Sri Lanka).
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| legaleagle 20 Sep 17 10.01am |
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With respect,you may have jumped to conclusions. My point was not simply aimed at her but equally at the establishment (of which in this respect she is certainly a part)in Myanmar. There is a long history of ill treatment of Rohingya,going back at least to the time immediately post WW2 when her father,Aung San one of the country's independence leaders,denied Rohingya citizenship of the newly independent state We had actually promised the Rohingya independence during the war with Japan in return for fighting the Japanese occupiers, though the promise was subsequently broken. I do think there would likely be more posts on these boardswere it muslims oppressing people of another ethnicity ,but am happy to agree to differ if others think not.
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| npn Crowborough 20 Sep 17 10.31am |
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Happy to bow to your knowledge of the history. As I said, I have none. A shame we broke promises, but we would have been in the wrong whichever path we followed (basically agreeing to carve up a country we were occupying when we hand it back). We all know how well that worked out in the middle east and Ireland. All I can go on is that I personally have not said much about this particular situation, and attempted (badly) to explain why. I may be the only person who has felt that way, but I'm not particularly special, so I doubt it Edited by npn (20 Sep 2017 10.32am)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Sep 17 11.17am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Very recently the left were telling us how Aung San Suu Kyi (not a panda) was an icon of human rights, enthroned in the pantheon with Mandela, Gandhi and the Dalai Lama. Now, it turns out she is a not so thinly veiled, ethnic cleansing, islamophobic racist. As is very often the case, the left back the wrong horse. Not sure it was just the left. Quite a few right wing governments kind of got behind her. That said, was Burma, by any stretch of the imagination is a horrific regime, prior to her. Optimism I guess, that she'd be better.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Sep 17 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Appalling.No excuses If the majority were muslim and the oppressed minority not,I suspect this thread would be a good few pages longer by now.Now,why would that be? Why ask the question if you know the answer? Muslims are associated with terrorism, ISIS, medieval beliefs, brutality, intolerance, and separatism. Fairly or unfairly, sympathy is in short supply.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 20 Sep 17 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Not sure it was just the left. Quite a few right wing governments kind of got behind her. That said, was Burma, by any stretch of the imagination is a horrific regime, prior to her. Optimism I guess, that she'd be better. Given the Nobel Peace Prize for "for her non-violent struggle for democracy and human rights". I can also remember the left lavishing praise on Robert Mugabe when he came to power.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Sep 17 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Given the Nobel Peace Prize for "for her non-violent struggle for democracy and human rights". I can also remember the left lavishing praise on Robert Mugabe when he came to power. I had no idea that 'the left' awarded Nobel Peace Prizes - you learn something new every day.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 20 Sep 17 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I had no idea that 'the left' awarded Nobel Peace Prizes - you learn something new every day. It's been a left wing 'Oscars' for years. THE EU even won it in 2012!
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