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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 24 Sep 17 8.42am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

The hatred of Benteke is amazing.
Has missed one open goal vs Liverpool otherwise been denied by outstanding saves. He's been starved of service and left isolated game after game, yet he's supposed to perform miracles. No one else has scored by the way. Where are the goals from Cheek, Cabaye, Punch, Dann, Schlupp, Townsend? No one has stepped up to cover for him during his own personal drought.
The entire defence has given away game after game with a little help from the midfield and of the field we've royally f***ed ourselves, but let's all take a pop at one man cos we don't believe he runs around enough.

I normally agree with a lot you say DM, but Benteke has had a couple more chances which, although well saved by the keepers, he really could have been more ruthless with. One in particular, when he shot low at the keeper in the six yard box.

Of course it's ridiculous to 'hate' him. But there is a distinct lack of courage in his game. I noticed it at Liverpol and I can see it here. I watched Shane Long closely last week and was impressed by his constant niggling and outright unsporting behaviour. In fact it wasn't until the 77th minute that the referee managed to properly notice what he was up to. It's not pretty and may offend people who love the beautiful game but it's effective.

Yes, with good service and support CB is a top striker and can be very productive, but until those areas are properly addressed then needs must and we need a bit of Shane Long from him.

 

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chateauferret Flag 24 Sep 17 8.47am

Originally posted by bexleydave


You are 100%, 22 carat, gold-plated correct!

It seems that a number of our supposed supporters are never happier than when they're crucifying one of our own. There always has to be a scapegoat. This is the same team that kept us up last year, the same striker that scored 17 goals, but no, it's Hennessey's fault, oh no it's Puncheon, no Ward, oh actually it's Benteke, and so the list will go on. We really are the true Nigel's of the footballing world and rightly called so.

What nonsense. If a player is working hard then we will acknowledge that and give credit where due even if he doesn't happen to be a superstar - see Campbell. But Puncheon and Benteke are being called out not for their natural talent but for their work rate, which in both cases has been pi** poor this season.

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 24 Sep 17 9.31am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

What nonsense. If a player is working hard then we will acknowledge that and give credit where due even if he doesn't happen to be a superstar - see Campbell. But Puncheon and Benteke are being called out not for their natural talent but for their work rate, which in both cases has been pi** poor this season.

The truth, which will hurt some!

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 24 Sep 17 9.32am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

I heard it was Everton that refused to pay that fee. As for Tosen, we're we really in for him? I doubt it, as the money was ring fenced for Sakho.
Just watched the 90 minute version of the game on Sky and the experts have me baffled. I was expecting Benteke to be all over the place, but no. First half he led the line well, dropped in deep left side when we didn't have the ball in a 4-4-2 formation, won numerous flick ons and was a part of a very effective first 44 minutes in which he did his job.
Second half we only got the ball to him once and he headed it down to Cheek on the penalty spot, but he was crowded out. He went down injured soon after that and it's clear he was playing hurt, yet still there's pricks questioning his heart. To me there's only the fans who's hearts need questioning. Quit on their team quicker than a whore goes down for 50 quid.
Second half City were awesome and few could have lived with them. The big teams seem to be taking the smaller ones to the cleaners quite regularly this season.

Edited by Dangermouse (23 Sep 2017 10.35pm)

Everton were looking for a striker themselves, nothing came off so worked out well for them, unfortunately not for us. Sako will get the nod in my opinion with one of the youngsters in reserve. Judging by SP radio interview can't see us getting a free agent in. Another below par player on the wage bill is probably not what we want.

 


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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 24 Sep 17 9.40am Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

What nonsense. If a player is working hard then we will acknowledge that and give credit where due even if he doesn't happen to be a superstar - see Campbell. But Puncheon and Benteke are being called out not for their natural talent but for their work rate, which in both cases has been pi** poor this season.

See Campbell, are you having a laugh? He was despised on here. Benteke doesn't play like Shane Long and Shane Long doesn't score as many goals as Benteke, but he works hard, well done. So does Cameron Jerome.
Benteke is doing the job asked of him and not asked to run around defenders as we are happy for them to have it in their half. As for Punch, he's been ineffective for a while now, but I would never question his workrate. Trouble is workrate doesn't cover for giving it away constantly.

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 24 Sep 17 9.50am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Everton were looking for a striker themselves, nothing came off so worked out well for them, unfortunately not for us. Sako will get the nod in my opinion with one of the youngsters in reserve. Judging by SP radio interview can't see us getting a free agent in. Another below par player on the wage bill is probably not what we want.

SP is already thinking about cutting the wage bill because he has got us relegated already!

 

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chateauferret Flag 24 Sep 17 9.53am

Originally posted by Dangermouse

See Campbell, are you having a laugh? He was despised on here. Benteke doesn't play like Shane Long and Shane Long doesn't score as many goals as Benteke, but he works hard, well done. So does Cameron Jerome.
Benteke is doing the job asked of him and not asked to run around defenders as we are happy for them to have it in their half. As for Punch, he's been ineffective for a while now, but I would never question his workrate. Trouble is workrate doesn't cover for giving it away constantly.

As was pointed out above, players who are despised on here are not always despised with good reason. Anyone who didn't like Campbell should go and watch the match at Anfield last season where he swapped places with Tomkins who was injured and worked his socks off to help close the game out. Can you imagine Benteke doing that?

Puncheon does plenty of standing about pointing and gesticulating. I suppose you could call that work.

Observe the words "this season" in my post. Both of them have done the business in the past so we know they can. That's what's infuriating.

 


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View Eagle Phil's Profile Eagle Phil Flag 24 Sep 17 11.10am Send a Private Message to Eagle Phil Add Eagle Phil as a friend

If he's out for a while what will we miss? Will we miss his goals .. oh wait he hasn't scored. Will we miss his incisive runs into the box .. oh wait he doesn't make any. Will we miss tackling back to help the defence .. oh wait he doesn't do that. Will we miss him making decoy runs to create space for others .. oh wait he doesn't do that. Can't say he'll be missed on current form.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Sep 17 11.33am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

This is what happens when you don't spend enough money to get quality cover(any cover) for key positions and leave everything to the last minute.

Well done everyone.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 24 Sep 17 11.41am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is what happens when you don't spend enough money to get quality cover(any cover) for key positions and leave everything to the last minute.

Well done everyone.

What's done is done and we all raised concerns about the lack of a backup striker when the window closed and going over it again won't achieve anything.

Rather than throw someone else into the number 9 role perhaps we can try something different next week by pushing Loftus-Cheek further up and having one of the youngsters sniffing around him. We can't do any worse and even if we are unlikely to beat Manchester United it would be nice to just score a goal

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 24 Sep 17 11.42am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Eagle Phil

If he's out for a while what will we miss? Will we miss his goals .. oh wait he hasn't scored. Will we miss his incisive runs into the box .. oh wait he doesn't make any. Will we miss tackling back to help the defence .. oh wait he doesn't do that. Will we miss him making decoy runs to create space for others .. oh wait he doesn't do that. Can't say he'll be missed on current form.

But the "current form" extends to the whole team. Even our two loanees, who are both clearly talented, have their moments. Loftus-Cheek has been guilty of not sticking away some that looked easier to score and Owusu-Mensah has been part of some pretty ropey defences.

It's unfair and unreasonable to single out individuals for blame when, for whatever reason, the whole team, maybe the whole setup, is failing. As already pointed out, these are players that have done it well for us before and can do so again. It's the bigger picture that needs to be looked at.

 


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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 24 Sep 17 11.56am Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

When confidence goes everything goes. Football becomes difficult and players start to overthink things. They react slower because of this and become reactive rather than proactive. This makes them look off the pace and laboured and it's then a vicious circle. Until the first goal we looked ok and even played some nice stuff, but once it went in the confidence flooded out and we then looked decidedly ropey. Players take too long to make decisions and generally try to play it safe and some stop showing for the ball. Abusing one man is just dumb, but that's the best fans in the league for ya.


 


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