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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.21pm
Originally posted by elgrande It just amazes me,how they all promise so much when not in power. Corbyn is riding on a high,firstly because the students have been taken in,( never done a days work in their life),And secondly by gullible t***s like a lot of posters on here believing in some sort of utopia where we can all live on 30 bob a week ... and the world is like an Islington dinner party . Such insight. Watch this... [Link]
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.21pm

Originally posted by elgrande

It just amazes me,how they all promise so much when not in power.
Corbyn is riding on a high,firstly because the students have been taken in,( never done a days work in their life),And secondly by gullible t***s like a lot of posters on here believing in some sort of utopia where we can all live on 30 bob a week ... and the world is like an Islington dinner party .

Such insight.

Watch this...

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elgrande bedford 27 Sep 17 11.30pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Such insight. Watch this... [Link] No I saw some thing earlier,and nearly put me off my san Miguel and piealla...you have your fun and hopes. Me I just hope they are seen for what they are,the real working man's enemy. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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elgrande

bedford 27 Sep 17 11.30pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Such insight.

Watch this...

[Link]

No I saw some thing earlier,and nearly put me off my san Miguel and piealla...you have your fun and hopes.

Me I just hope they are seen for what they are,the real working man's enemy.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.34pm
Originally posted by elgrande No I saw some thing earlier,and nearly put me off my san Miguel and piealla...you have your fun and hopes. Me I just hope they are seen for what they are,the real working man's enemy. What do you base this on?
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.34pm

Originally posted by elgrande

No I saw some thing earlier,and nearly put me off my san Miguel and piealla...you have your fun and hopes.

Me I just hope they are seen for what they are,the real working man's enemy.

What do you base this on?

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elgrande bedford 27 Sep 17 11.40pm
Originally posted by nickgusset What do you base this on? They agree with unfettered immigration..that in it self betrays the working man. I have said countless times 6 to 8 eastern Europeans living in a house sharing the bills undermines a worker with a family trying to get by. And the companies know there is a an endless flow of workers. Cut off that flow and companies have to pay a wage a family man can live on....argue that point. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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elgrande

bedford 27 Sep 17 11.40pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

What do you base this on?

They agree with unfettered immigration..that in it self betrays the working man.
I have said countless times 6 to 8 eastern Europeans living in a house sharing the bills undermines a worker with a family trying to get by.
And the companies know there is a an endless flow of workers.
Cut off that flow and companies have to pay a wage a family man can live on....argue that point.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.46pm
Originally posted by elgrande They agree with unfettered immigration..that in it self betrays the working man. I have said countless times 6 to 8 eastern Europeans living in a house sharing the bills undermines a worker with a family trying to get by. And the companies know there is a an endless flow of workers. Cut off that flow and companies have to pay a wage a family man can live on....argue that point. Where has unfettered immigration appeared on any literature or in any speech ?
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 27 Sep 17 11.46pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Where has unfettered immigration appeared on any literature or in any speech ?

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Eaglekiwi Auckland 27 Sep 17 11.59pm
Eer, doesn't the immigrant argument cut both ways. Since the 1950s literally millions of Brits have migrated to the likes of Australia/NZ/Canada/US often to the same local complaints of immigrants taking jobs..etc. Are you suggesting that Britain shouldn't take immigrants, while happily exporting large numbers of its own people around the old commonwealth. It's not a one way street - any more than the EU is. Lots of Brits have moved to Europe but that was strangely ignored by the Brexit camp who seemed to claim it was a one way street. Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am)
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Eaglekiwi

Auckland 27 Sep 17 11.59pm

Eer, doesn't the immigrant argument cut both ways. Since the 1950s literally millions of Brits have migrated to the likes of Australia/NZ/Canada/US often to the same local complaints of immigrants taking jobs..etc. Are you suggesting that Britain shouldn't take immigrants, while happily exporting large numbers of its own people around the old commonwealth. It's not a one way street - any more than the EU is. Lots of Brits have moved to Europe but that was strangely ignored by the Brexit camp who seemed to claim it was a one way street.

Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am)

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elgrande bedford 28 Sep 17 12.03am
Originally posted by nickgusset Where has unfettered immigration appeared on any literature or in any speech ? He supports free movement,and he has said any deal he would do could include free movement. Which i do believe amounts to the same thing,so stop playing dumb because it doesn't suit your agenda. And before you say link link..it was all over the news a couple of weeks back. I trust him and that f*** wit McDowell about as far as I can throw them. What else has he said today..come on chief cheerleader enlighten me what's he going to do to make my life better. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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elgrande

bedford 28 Sep 17 12.03am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Where has unfettered immigration appeared on any literature or in any speech ?

He supports free movement,and he has said any deal he would do could include free movement.
Which i do believe amounts to the same thing,so stop playing dumb because it doesn't suit your agenda.

And before you say link link..it was all over the news a couple of weeks back.
I trust him and that f*** wit McDowell about as far as I can throw them.
What else has he said today..come on chief cheerleader enlighten me what's he going to do to make my life better.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Eaglekiwi Auckland 28 Sep 17 12.05am
Originally posted by Eaglekiwi Eer, doesn't the immigrant argument cut both ways. Since the 1950s literally millions of Brits have migrated to the likes of Australia/NZ/Canada/US often to the same local complaints of immigrants taking jobs..etc. Are you suggesting that Britain shouldn't take immigrants, while happily exporting large numbers of its own people around the old commonwealth. It's not a one way street - any more than the EU is. Lots of Brits have moved to Europe but that was strangely ignored by the Brexit camp who seemed to claim it was a one way street. I find it amusing to meet British migrants to NZ who complain about "foreigners" moving to Britain. They don't see the hypocracy in their stance. The world is mixing, learn to live with it. Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am) Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.05am)
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Eaglekiwi

Auckland 28 Sep 17 12.05am

Originally posted by Eaglekiwi

I find it amusing to meet British migrants to NZ who complain about "foreigners" moving to Britain. They don't see the hypocracy in their stance. The world is mixing, learn to live with it.

Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am)

Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.05am)

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elgrande bedford 28 Sep 17 12.09am
Originally posted by Eaglekiwi Eer, doesn't the immigrant argument cut both ways. Since the 1950s literally millions of Brits have migrated to the likes of Australia/NZ/Canada/US often to the same local complaints of immigrants taking jobs..etc. Are you suggesting that Britain shouldn't take immigrants, while happily exporting large numbers of its own people around the old commonwealth. It's not a one way street - any more than the EU is. Lots of Brits have moved to Europe but that was strangely ignored by the Brexit camp who seemed to claim it was a one way street. Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am) Not at all Mr kiwi,but if I am right do people who emigrate to new Zealand and Australia need a certain skill set. And be a professional of some sort,you see there is always a counter argument..good day always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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elgrande

bedford 28 Sep 17 12.09am

Originally posted by Eaglekiwi

Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am)

Not at all Mr kiwi,but if I am right do people who emigrate to new Zealand and Australia need a certain skill set.
And be a professional of some sort,you see there is always a counter argument..good day

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Sep 17 12.28am
Originally posted by elgrande He supports free movement,and he has said any deal he would do could include free movement. Which i do believe amounts to the same thing,so stop playing dumb because it doesn't suit your agenda. And before you say link link..it was all over the news a couple of weeks back. I trust him and that f* wit McDowell about as far as I can throw them. What else has he said today..come on chief cheerleader enlighten me what's he going to do to make my life better. I think he said he supported controlled and monitored immigration but this week he's said Labour would guarantee full access to the single market and customs union and also he's not against free movement. What's becoming clear is he's confused over Brexit. The immigration, single market and customs union negotiations and nationalisation issues he has no answer to. He needs to be properly grilled on this because he's avoiding what's not likely. The Tories aren't perfect but there's more appreciation over the immigration and access to tariff free trade. COYP**
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 28 Sep 17 12.28am

Originally posted by elgrande

He supports free movement,and he has said any deal he would do could include free movement.
Which i do believe amounts to the same thing,so stop playing dumb because it doesn't suit your agenda.

I think he said he supported controlled and monitored immigration but this week he's said Labour would guarantee full access to the single market and customs union and also he's not against free movement.

What's becoming clear is he's confused over Brexit. The immigration, single market and customs union negotiations and nationalisation issues he has no answer to. He needs to be properly grilled on this because he's avoiding what's not likely.

The Tories aren't perfect but there's more appreciation over the immigration and access to tariff free trade.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Sep 17 12.40am
Originally posted by Eaglekiwi Eer, doesn't the immigrant argument cut both ways. Since the 1950s literally millions of Brits have migrated to the likes of Australia/NZ/Canada/US often to the same local complaints of immigrants taking jobs..etc. Are you suggesting that Britain shouldn't take immigrants, while happily exporting large numbers of its own people around the old commonwealth. It's not a one way street - any more than the EU is. Lots of Brits have moved to Europe but that was strangely ignored by the Brexit camp who seemed to claim it was a one way street. Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am) Only it takes a Brit about as long as it takes to boil a kettle to mix in with Aussie and kiwi life whereas some immigrants here never will or intend to. And I bet a tiny minority of brits around the world arrive at their destination taking inferior pay. In fact they'll be taking their capital abroad with them whereas lots of immigrant earnings leave the U.K. We weren't aware that the EU intended to invite half of Europe over here to help stop pay covering a household. It was originally Western Europe. Now we have cheaper immigrants able to work without the need to train young brits. Then there is overcrowding and creating this spiral that is harder to break. We need immigration, just not an open door with no ways to turn the taps down. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 28 Sep 17 12.40am

Originally posted by Eaglekiwi

Edited by Eaglekiwi (28 Sep 2017 12.02am)

Only it takes a Brit about as long as it takes to boil a kettle to mix in with Aussie and kiwi life whereas some immigrants here never will or intend to. And I bet a tiny minority of brits around the world arrive at their destination taking inferior pay. In fact they'll be taking their capital abroad with them whereas lots of immigrant earnings leave the U.K.

We weren't aware that the EU intended to invite half of Europe over here to help stop pay covering a household. It was originally Western Europe. Now we have cheaper immigrants able to work without the need to train young brits. Then there is overcrowding and creating this spiral that is harder to break.

We need immigration, just not an open door with no ways to turn the taps down.

COYP

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wordup 28 Sep 17 2.06am
A sorry lot by all accounts, but the same applies across the board. Honestly I think this is a difficult time for many, who see these politicians spouting out the usual and think 'do i want to vote for ANY of these people'
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28 Sep 17 2.06am

A sorry lot by all accounts, but the same applies across the board. Honestly I think this is a difficult time for many, who see these politicians spouting out the usual and think 'do i want to vote for ANY of these people'

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